Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

Brothers of brub and brap, this is your safe space.
User avatar
golftdibrad1
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 2009
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:35 am
Drives: on used bald tires

Gberg2119 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:02 pm

Elantra N is basically the Kirkland brand Hype R.
This is the kind of wisdom we all come here for :smrt:
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:28 pm I'm happy for Brad because nobody jerks it to the Miata harder on this forum and that is the Crown Prince of Miatas.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10103
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

Melon2.0 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:11 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:07 pm

:like: C8 ZO6
I have already been car shopping.
C8 isn't on the list.

CT4-V Blackwing
Integra Type S
M2 Comp (Previous gen)
Blackwing would be awesome! Maybe the same color as the 'maro
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10103
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

max225 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:10 am
Melon2.0 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:03 pm

RAV4.


Image
Hmmm that looks like a brand new Honda hrv though …
Griff had that exact example of the hrv as a rental when we first :dock:

Also :melon: was it a girl, asking for a friend
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10103
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

D Griff wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:47 am
Melon2.0 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:07 pm

It all happened so fast.

It went from "Oh shit, she's turning" to "Crap, she's not stopping" and then finally "Oh, this is going to suck." Then the impact.

Those airbags go off with the quickness.
Yep, the airbags deploying is wild. I had a similar feeling when I hit the buck in UT, it all kind of goes to slow motion, buck appeared in my peripheral, slammed on brakes, thought, he's coming out and this car isn't going from 70-0 in five meters, impact, bags exploding all around us. :yikes:

I am :excited: for the Integra :popcorn:

Did the doctor report back on any injuries or treatments?
Exactly what happened with my :turboyaris: before I knew it, the hood became a mountain and smoke coming out, with my airbag popped off.
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10103
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

Desertbreh wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:30 am
Melon2.0 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:07 pm

It all happened so fast.

It went from "Oh shit, she's turning" to "Crap, she's not stopping" and then finally "Oh, this is going to suck." Then the impact.

Those airbags go off with the quickness.
So tell us about Janet Guthrie. Was she sending a tweet or what?
Probably watching tiktoks
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10103
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

Gberg2119 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:27 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:18 pm

Brand prestige, better looking, heritage. Hype R is probably cheaper to own as it’ll depreciate $5k in five years and the Elantra $20k in that time. Still a tough call, N is a lot of car for laying down low 30s.
It definitely is. But a quick search on autotrader and the elantras seem to be holding their value pretty well.

It’s definitely a lot of car for $34k. Especially when even GTI’s are at or above $40k.
Base model starts at $30k, for $40k for an autobahn :yikes:
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42831
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

Gberg2119 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:02 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:20 pm

I’ve had the thought should the need arise. That said… would I always wish it was a Hype R?
I’ve been beating that drum for a while now especially since the 24’s are out which look great.

Elantra N is basically the Kirkland brand Hype R. Is that tiny bit of extra performance out of the Hype R worth another $10k in price? Not really. But is the brand prestige of Type R worth it? :iono:
Hyundai is a knock off brand with inferior quality which is why Honda will always command a premium.
User avatar
Desertbreh
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 17061
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:31 am
Location: Beyond Thunderdome

max225 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:21 am
Gberg2119 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:02 pm

I’ve been beating that drum for a while now especially since the 24’s are out which look great.

Elantra N is basically the Kirkland brand Hype R. Is that tiny bit of extra performance out of the Hype R worth another $10k in price? Not really. But is the brand prestige of Type R worth it? :iono:
Hyundai is a knock off brand with inferior quality which is why Honda will always command a premium.
Honda makes some shit. But the Hype R is not.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42831
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

Desertbreh wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:09 am
max225 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:21 am

Hyundai is a knock off brand with inferior quality which is why Honda will always command a premium.
Honda makes some shit. But the Hype R is not.
A POS low rent honda piloted by an only fans model took out a brubmobile no problem. And she lived to make another vid
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40552
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

D Griff wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:58 pm I have to say, the Elantra is kind of dope. I filled up the tank and got 38 MPG hand calculated. The handling and comfort are quite respectable, it's super comfy and just a nice place to chill. I've weirdly gotten compliments on it from TWO people. 86 gets more but I would expect this to blend to nothing.

A few gripes:
- motor sounds like :poop:
- You have to manually select CarPlay each drive, no auto populating the screen
- SUspension is a tad econo box
- Motor is pure poverty

Good:
-New styling is way better, no fish front is nice
-Seats/interior materials/steering wheel all feel pretty darn nice
- Stereo is decent, tech is plentiful, driver aids are better than average. I'd probably rather not have 'em, but they're good
-EMPEEGEE
-Back seat space is quite plentiful, as much or more than my 328i had
-CVT isn't bad, manual shifting is quality for what it is
-Fun to drive on Pittsburgh twisties
I agree with basically all of this. It’s just good at being a car. Which I appreciate. There’s not much to hate here. Compacts have come a long way from the 2000 Focus I used to have.

I do wonder how much better a civic is.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29092
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

Johnny_P wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:58 pm I have to say, the Elantra is kind of dope. I filled up the tank and got 38 MPG hand calculated. The handling and comfort are quite respectable, it's super comfy and just a nice place to chill. I've weirdly gotten compliments on it from TWO people. 86 gets more but I would expect this to blend to nothing.

A few gripes:
- motor sounds like :poop:
- You have to manually select CarPlay each drive, no auto populating the screen
- SUspension is a tad econo box
- Motor is pure poverty

Good:
-New styling is way better, no fish front is nice
-Seats/interior materials/steering wheel all feel pretty darn nice
- Stereo is decent, tech is plentiful, driver aids are better than average. I'd probably rather not have 'em, but they're good
-EMPEEGEE
-Back seat space is quite plentiful, as much or more than my 328i had
-CVT isn't bad, manual shifting is quality for what it is
-Fun to drive on Pittsburgh twisties
I agree with basically all of this. It’s just good at being a car. Which I appreciate. There’s not much to hate here. Compacts have come a long way from the 2000 Focus I used to have.

I do wonder how much better a civic is.
Last Civic I’ve driven was a 2019 R and Si which I liked a lot. I’ve rented a few accords and I actually prefer this Elantra, more engaging drive, less enormous, more features, sportier seats.
User avatar
golftdibrad1
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 2009
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:35 am
Drives: on used bald tires

So the 1.4 in the fiata is a tune away from ~200hp, 180 wheel. :dillerman: :nice: :wasteful: :tubeman: :math:
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:28 pm I'm happy for Brad because nobody jerks it to the Miata harder on this forum and that is the Crown Prince of Miatas.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29092
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

golftdibrad1 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:13 am So the 1.4 in the fiata is a tune away from ~200hp, 180 wheel. :dillerman: :nice: :wasteful: :tubeman: :math:
All the journalists and YouTubers shat on the 1.4T Fiata versus the ND. I really liked it. Driving the Fiata six speed on Angeles Crest was a highlight of my entire driving career. The sun rose over the mountains, incredible views, weather, road just pure top down fun. Maybe the best drive of my life.
User avatar
golftdibrad1
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 2009
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:35 am
Drives: on used bald tires

D Griff wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:16 am
golftdibrad1 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:13 am So the 1.4 in the fiata is a tune away from ~200hp, 180 wheel. :dillerman: :nice: :wasteful: :tubeman: :math:
All the journalists and YouTubers shat on the 1.4T Fiata versus the ND. I really liked it. Driving the Fiata six speed on Angeles Crest was a highlight of my entire driving career. The sun rose over the mountains, incredible views, weather, road just pure top down fun. Maybe the best drive of my life.
well Camisa agreed that the fiata is the bette street car but we all know how :wrong: cammisa is.

Might have to VPN to view unfortunately for reasons.
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:28 pm I'm happy for Brad because nobody jerks it to the Miata harder on this forum and that is the Crown Prince of Miatas.
User avatar
SAWCE
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 21992
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:26 pm
Drives: Ebombtra
Location: The mountains

User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29092
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

golftdibrad1 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:53 am
D Griff wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:16 am

All the journalists and YouTubers shat on the 1.4T Fiata versus the ND. I really liked it. Driving the Fiata six speed on Angeles Crest was a highlight of my entire driving career. The sun rose over the mountains, incredible views, weather, road just pure top down fun. Maybe the best drive of my life.
well Camisa agreed that the fiata is the bette street car but we all know how :wrong: cammisa is.
No one said he is :wrong: , just that he is getting money from Tessie.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29092
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

They are both a lot of fun. I have a good bit of seat time in NDs but they were autos and in TX so not really the same thing as compared to Angeles Crest.
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42831
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

D Griff wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 1:05 pm
golftdibrad1 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:53 am

well Camisa agreed that the fiata is the bette street car but we all know how :wrong: cammisa is.
No one said he is :wrong: , just that he is getting money from Tessie.
His cybercuck “review” was a god damn #ad but generally my fav car reviewer
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29092
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

Agreed, I do still like Camisa quite a bit.
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8091
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

Walked in to the diller to pay for the Audi work and since our new shirts have the Chevy logo on them they asked if I was there for a dealer trade.

:ayfkm:

We all knew this would be the new normal for us.
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8091
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

Oh @Melon before you run to Apex for new whip wheels I'll probably be selling mine.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29092
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:20 pm Oh @Melon before you run to Apex for new whip wheels I'll probably be selling mine.
:butwhy:
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8091
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

D Griff wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:35 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:20 pm Oh @Melon before you run to Apex for new whip wheels I'll probably be selling mine.
:butwhy:
There's no perfect way to do the C7Z flares. They look really cool but if you get close you can see where they get pinched or twisted because the C5 has a different radius to the wheel arch. I've also already rubbed through the back side of the fronts because the suspension settled more than I planned.
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8091
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

Image

Image
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42831
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

How low can you go … how low can you go ! (Song)
Post Reply