OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

[wap]

Yeah I’m thinking that’s what it is everywhere. But if you were to actually ask the city I’m sure it would be some sort of s show. Cuz there are rUlEz

In NC you can legally burn your yard.

Don't want to take leaves? Burn your yard.

Ew.

[max225]

We have legal burns in Cali also.

[max225]

We have legal burns in Cali also.

[razr390]

This whole thing is possibly the whitest shit I’ve ever heard of.

If I wanted a fire pit or fence… I would go to Lowe’s, buy it, then put it up. That’s the process in this city of 2 million

I think what he is trying to say is it is better to ask for forgiveness than permission, if at all. Some of these rules are rules but don't get enforced until you (the student) asks the teacher if they forgot to collect/assign the homework. If you ask, there will be some paper pusher that finds some rule/regulation established in 1796 that states you can't make stone dicks in your yard on Sundays unless you wear white. So, sometimes it's better to just fucking make it and

[D Griff]

We could do burns growing up out in the desert, but had to notify the local FD and there were regulations on how far from structures, fences, and vegetation.

I certainly hope this is banned in CA at this point given the fire situation.

When I was in Dallshit last week, I saw an entire half of a subdivision burn to the ground on the news... the fire was somehow started by a lawn crew's equipment.

Just about anything can burn down the world now, sadly.

[D Griff]

I think what he is trying to say is it is better to ask for forgiveness than permission, if at all. Some of these rules are rules but don't get enforced until you (the student) asks the teacher if they forgot to collect/assign the homework. If you ask, there will be some paper pusher that finds some rule/regulation established in 1796 that states you can't make stone dicks in your yard on Sundays unless you wear white. So, sometimes it's better to just fucking make it and

Also

I'm sure there are some regulations here I don't know about... but

The only way I can imagine anything negative coming from anything like that would be upon sale of the house if it fails some sort of survey or inspection. Even that is thin though. We got a survey when we bought our house (which looking back seems like a waste of $400 and another part of the realtor scam, them sending money to survey bro with every transaction which probably results in an all expenses quarterly trip to the strip club or something). Survey showed that our carport is over the easement between our house/neighbors property (maybe that's not the right terminology, I don't recall), to which we just said and bought the house anyway. The only challenge would be if we wanted to enclose the car port, we probably couldn't get a building permit for that space. We could also just enclose the carport and nothing would happen

I assume this carport has been here since the house was built in the 70s or shortly after that.

[SAWCE]

Made the decision this weekend to skip on competing this year, and for the foreseeable future. We were hoping to have gotten pregnant these past few months but didn’t happen. And the drugs I use during prep are way more harsh and would set us back even further, so skipping that and gonna get off the juice for a bit and take fertility meds instead until we conceive.

Tough decision to make, probably harder than it should have been. But got to do right by Michelle and realize that while I can have kids at any point in my life, she’s got a window that is rapidly closing.

Will be kind of nice to take that step back and get back to lifting and growing just for myself and because it’s something I love to do. It’ll be slower growth with no assistance from anabolics, but I’ll keep at it and then once the bun is in the oven I’ll get to hop back on and really grow again. Taking that long off will be good for my receptors as well and I’ll be able to use lower doses than I currently am.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I think what he is trying to say is it is better to ask for forgiveness than permission, if at all. Some of these rules are rules but don't get enforced until you (the student) asks the teacher if they forgot to collect/assign the homework. If you ask, there will be some paper pusher that finds some rule/regulation established in 1796 that states you can't make stone dicks in your yard on Sundays unless you wear white. So, sometimes it's better to just fucking make it and

Also

I'm sure there are some regulations here I don't know about... but

The only way I can imagine anything negative coming from anything like that would be upon sale of the house if it fails some sort of survey or inspection. Even that is thin though. We got a survey when we bought our house (which looking back seems like a waste of $400 and another part of the realtor scam, them sending money to survey bro with every transaction which probably results in an all expenses quarterly trip to the strip club or something). Survey showed that our carport is over the easement between our house/neighbors property (maybe that's not the right terminology, I don't recall), to which we just said and bought the house anyway. The only challenge would be if we wanted to enclose the car port, we probably couldn't get a building permit for that space. We could also just enclose the carport and nothing would happen

I assume this carport has been here since the house was built in the 70s or shortly after that.

Wow, you had a survey done on your house before buying?

In an established area, I can't imagine it would make a difference during sale. Generally it's just things like fences not on the property line, or carport or shed type structures too close to property line. None of which really matter, nobody will make you tear down a non-compliant structure (well, that depends, but it's highly unlikely), but I guess if you wanted to move a fence to get more yard back or something?

One of our houses, the next door neighbors did a DIY addition that basically put the house ON the property line with zero offset. Clearly not at all to code, but it made the house ON TOP of our driveway, it was a big reason we sold the place, but before we did I contacted the building department about the situation and if there was anything the city would do to make them tear it down or something. The response was vague, but basically if someone does something like that unless you protest when they're building, there's not a ton you can do after the fact that doesn't get expensive with lawyers and whatnot. The new owners of that house should probably be aware that they could be sued at some point if the owners of our old house got all twisted up about it, but in many areas, there's no law that forces compliance for a structure being sold.

[D Griff]

Also

I'm sure there are some regulations here I don't know about... but

The only way I can imagine anything negative coming from anything like that would be upon sale of the house if it fails some sort of survey or inspection. Even that is thin though. We got a survey when we bought our house (which looking back seems like a waste of $400 and another part of the realtor scam, them sending money to survey bro with every transaction which probably results in an all expenses quarterly trip to the strip club or something). Survey showed that our carport is over the easement between our house/neighbors property (maybe that's not the right terminology, I don't recall), to which we just said and bought the house anyway. The only challenge would be if we wanted to enclose the car port, we probably couldn't get a building permit for that space. We could also just enclose the carport and nothing would happen

I assume this carport has been here since the house was built in the 70s or shortly after that.

Wow, you had a survey done on your house before buying?

In an established area, I can't imagine it would make a difference during sale. Generally it's just things like fences not on the property line, or carport or shed type structures too close to property line. None of which really matter, nobody will make you tear down a non-compliant structure (well, that depends, but it's highly unlikely), but I guess if you wanted to move a fence to get more yard back or something?

One of our houses, the next door neighbors did a DIY addition that basically put the house ON the property line with zero offset. Clearly not at all to code, but it made the house ON TOP of our driveway, it was a big reason we sold the place, but before we did I contacted the building department about the situation and if there was anything the city would do to make them tear it down or something. The response was vague, but basically if someone does something like that unless you protest when they're building, there's not a ton you can do after the fact that doesn't get expensive with lawyers and whatnot. The new owners of that house should probably be aware that they could be sued at some point if the owners of our old house got all twisted up about it, but in many areas, there's no law that forces compliance for a structure being sold.

We were told it was standard practice, optional but recommended. I guess the idea is that we'd know if we could ever run into any issues? As mentioned, it's another scam IMO. I think that these businesses all let the realtors plow their wives or something for all of the referrals.

At some point we may want to add on to the house and/or build a garage if we stay, so I guess we can reference it then at least

That sitch with the neighbors expanding their house right up to your old house is pretty crappy , I guess that's the downside of staying too far away from the style of the white flight paradise.

[D Griff]

Made the decision this weekend to skip on competing this year, and for the foreseeable future. We were hoping to have gotten pregnant these past few months but didn’t happen. And the drugs I use during prep are way more harsh and would set us back even further, so skipping that and gonna get off the juice for a bit and take fertility meds instead until we conceive.

Tough decision to make, probably harder than it should have been. But got to do right by Michelle and realize that while I can have kids at any point in my life, she’s got a window that is rapidly closing.

Will be kind of nice to take that step back and get back to lifting and growing just for myself and because it’s something I love to do. It’ll be slower growth with no assistance from anabolics, but I’ll keep at it and then once the bun is in the oven I’ll get to hop back on and really grow again. Taking that long off will be good for my receptors as well and I’ll be able to use lower doses than I currently am.

I know the feelz man, I gave up cycling for a while trying to conceive. Sounds like cycling has nothing to do with it , the more I learn. Hopefully getting off everything makes quick work of the

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Wow, you had a survey done on your house before buying?

In an established area, I can't imagine it would make a difference during sale. Generally it's just things like fences not on the property line, or carport or shed type structures too close to property line. None of which really matter, nobody will make you tear down a non-compliant structure (well, that depends, but it's highly unlikely), but I guess if you wanted to move a fence to get more yard back or something?

One of our houses, the next door neighbors did a DIY addition that basically put the house ON the property line with zero offset. Clearly not at all to code, but it made the house ON TOP of our driveway, it was a big reason we sold the place, but before we did I contacted the building department about the situation and if there was anything the city would do to make them tear it down or something. The response was vague, but basically if someone does something like that unless you protest when they're building, there's not a ton you can do after the fact that doesn't get expensive with lawyers and whatnot. The new owners of that house should probably be aware that they could be sued at some point if the owners of our old house got all twisted up about it, but in many areas, there's no law that forces compliance for a structure being sold.

We were told it was standard practice, optional but recommended. I guess the idea is that we'd know if we could ever run into any issues? As mentioned, it's another scam IMO. I think that these businesses all let the realtors plow their wives or something for all of the referrals.

At some point we may want to add on to the house and/or build a garage if we stay, so I guess we can reference it then at least

That sitch with the neighbors expanding their house right up to your old house is pretty crappy , I guess that's the downside of staying too far away from the style of the white flight paradise.

Yea, knowing where the property lines are is helpful...I guess. I've only ever had a survey done when we wanted to do work. The same house where the neighbors were on top of it, there was a 100 year old fence falling down along the backyard. Had a survey done for house renovations and found the old fence was 4 feet onto our property. Since the fence was falling down, we decided to replace it. Offered the people behind us the opportunity pay for half and erect it where the old fence stood, otherwise if we're paying for it, it's going on the property line and they're losing 4 feet of their backyard. They never responded to our letter and a phone call, so we put the fence on the property line and opened up the backyard more than I anticipated. That was a nice surprise from the survey.

That hood went through a period of decline in the 70's-00's. In those 30 years, people kind of did whatever they want it seems, and that's when the neighbors did their DIY addition ZFG. So code enforcement can come in handy to prevent situations like that, but that's about it IMO.

[D Griff]

We were told it was standard practice, optional but recommended. I guess the idea is that we'd know if we could ever run into any issues? As mentioned, it's another scam IMO. I think that these businesses all let the realtors plow their wives or something for all of the referrals.

At some point we may want to add on to the house and/or build a garage if we stay, so I guess we can reference it then at least

That sitch with the neighbors expanding their house right up to your old house is pretty crappy , I guess that's the downside of staying too far away from the style of the white flight paradise.

Yea, knowing where the property lines are is helpful...I guess. I've only ever had a survey done when we wanted to do work. The same house where the neighbors were on top of it, there was a 100 year old fence falling down along the backyard. Had a survey done for house renovations and found the old fence was 4 feet onto our property. Since the fence was falling down, we decided to replace it. Offered the people behind us the opportunity pay for half and erect it where the old fence stood, otherwise if we're paying for it, it's going on the property line and they're losing 4 feet of their backyard. They never responded to our letter and a phone call, so we put the fence on the property line and opened up the backyard more than I anticipated. That was a nice surprise from the survey.

That hood went through a period of decline in the 70's-00's. In those 30 years, people kind of did whatever they want it seems, and that's when the neighbors did their DIY addition ZFG. So code enforcement can come in handy to prevent situations like that, but that's about it IMO.

Agreed. An addition to your house is a far cry from a firepit though

[wap]

Wow, you had a survey done on your house before buying?

In an established area, I can't imagine it would make a difference during sale. Generally it's just things like fences not on the property line, or carport or shed type structures too close to property line. None of which really matter, nobody will make you tear down a non-compliant structure (well, that depends, but it's highly unlikely), but I guess if you wanted to move a fence to get more yard back or something?

One of our houses, the next door neighbors did a DIY addition that basically put the house ON the property line with zero offset. Clearly not at all to code, but it made the house ON TOP of our driveway, it was a big reason we sold the place, but before we did I contacted the building department about the situation and if there was anything the city would do to make them tear it down or something. The response was vague, but basically if someone does something like that unless you protest when they're building, there's not a ton you can do after the fact that doesn't get expensive with lawyers and whatnot. The new owners of that house should probably be aware that they could be sued at some point if the owners of our old house got all twisted up about it, but in many areas, there's no law that forces compliance for a structure being sold.

We were told it was standard practice, optional but recommended. I guess the idea is that we'd know if we could ever run into any issues? As mentioned, it's another scam IMO. I think that these businesses all let the realtors plow their wives or something for all of the referrals.

At some point we may want to add on to the house and/or build a garage if we stay, so I guess we can reference it then at least

That sitch with the neighbors expanding their house right up to your old house is pretty crappy , I guess that's the downside of staying too far away from the style of the white flight paradise.

, but we're getting more integrated. We have several and families in town. My neighbor is African American, with a white wife.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Yea, knowing where the property lines are is helpful...I guess. I've only ever had a survey done when we wanted to do work. The same house where the neighbors were on top of it, there was a 100 year old fence falling down along the backyard. Had a survey done for house renovations and found the old fence was 4 feet onto our property. Since the fence was falling down, we decided to replace it. Offered the people behind us the opportunity pay for half and erect it where the old fence stood, otherwise if we're paying for it, it's going on the property line and they're losing 4 feet of their backyard. They never responded to our letter and a phone call, so we put the fence on the property line and opened up the backyard more than I anticipated. That was a nice surprise from the survey.

That hood went through a period of decline in the 70's-00's. In those 30 years, people kind of did whatever they want it seems, and that's when the neighbors did their DIY addition ZFG. So code enforcement can come in handy to prevent situations like that, but that's about it IMO.

Agreed. An addition to your house is a far cry from a firepit though

Fire pits are dangerous...and I really support code enforcement for them in denser urban environments. The last thing you want is your neighbor building a raging fire right next to your house or garage ZFG. I've seen how quickly a 100 year old tinderbox garage can go up, it's really not something that should be taken lightly, though it often is.

[SAWCE]

Made the decision this weekend to skip on competing this year, and for the foreseeable future. We were hoping to have gotten pregnant these past few months but didn’t happen. And the drugs I use during prep are way more harsh and would set us back even further, so skipping that and gonna get off the juice for a bit and take fertility meds instead until we conceive.

Tough decision to make, probably harder than it should have been. But got to do right by Michelle and realize that while I can have kids at any point in my life, she’s got a window that is rapidly closing.

Will be kind of nice to take that step back and get back to lifting and growing just for myself and because it’s something I love to do. It’ll be slower growth with no assistance from anabolics, but I’ll keep at it and then once the bun is in the oven I’ll get to hop back on and really grow again. Taking that long off will be good for my receptors as well and I’ll be able to use lower doses than I currently am.

I know the feelz man, I gave up cycling for a while trying to conceive. Sounds like cycling has nothing to do with it , the more I learn. Hopefully getting off everything makes quick work of the

I was pretty shocked to hear that your doc wanted you to stop cycling, no whey, etc.. stuff that really should have no impact on your swim team.

The juice we know has major impacts. I’ll work with a hormone clinic to get my guys up to where they need to be quicker than a normal doctor would so my bbing layoff will hopefully not be too long. I’d hate to go a full year with no gear at all lol.

[wap]

Agreed. An addition to your house is a far cry from a firepit though

Fire pits are dangerous...and I really support code enforcement for them in denser urban environments. The last thing you want is your neighbor building a raging fire right next to your house or garage ZFG. I've seen how quickly a 100 year old tinderbox garage can go up, it's really not something that should be taken lightly, though it often is.

My setback requirement for the fire pit is minimum 25 ft from any structure, and the fire pit itself has to be < 3 ft diameter and < 2 ft high. I don't have a problem with this.

I confess that I have stupidly lit fires (in the rusty metal fire pit I'll be getting rid of) within 10 ft of my old frame house.

[D Griff]

Fire pits are dangerous...and I really support code enforcement for them in denser urban environments. The last thing you want is your neighbor building a raging fire right next to your house or garage ZFG. I've seen how quickly a 100 year old tinderbox garage can go up, it's really not something that should be taken lightly, though it often is.

My setback requirement for the fire pit is minimum 25 ft from any structure, and the fire pit itself has to be < 3 ft diameter and < 2 ft high. I don't have a problem with this.

I confess that I have stupidly lit fires (in the rusty metal fire pit I'll be getting rid of) within 10 ft of my old frame house.

Yep, to your and Chris's point, I assume common sense which is probably dumb. A fire pit should be a fire pit, not an open fire on the ground next to a building.

[D Griff]

I know the feelz man, I gave up cycling for a while trying to conceive. Sounds like cycling has nothing to do with it , the more I learn. Hopefully getting off everything makes quick work of the

I was pretty shocked to hear that your doc wanted you to stop cycling, no whey, etc.. stuff that really should have no impact on your swim team.

The juice we know has major impacts. I’ll work with a hormone clinic to get my guys up to where they need to be quicker than a normal doctor would so my bbing layoff will hopefully not be too long. I’d hate to go a full year with no gear at all lol.

Those doc's are dumbasses and I still don't really have any answers... We took a break from all of that for a while but may start looking into it again, need to get a test I guess. You might want to get one as well, you may have no problems for all you know, it could be something with Michelle or just hasn't happened yet but there's nothing to worry about.

If you've got 20 million strong swimmers in every load, that you're on the juice.

[wap]

My setback requirement for the fire pit is minimum 25 ft from any structure, and the fire pit itself has to be < 3 ft diameter and < 2 ft high. I don't have a problem with this.

I confess that I have stupidly lit fires (in the rusty metal fire pit I'll be getting rid of) within 10 ft of my old frame house.

Yep, to your and Chris's point, I assume common sense which is probably dumb. A fire pit should be a fire pit, not an open fire on the ground next to a building.

Yep.

[D Griff]

Well, return to office just got real, I just got an invite that bagels will be served every Wednesday morning. The interesting thing is, how will the pre-COVID company veterans feel about being forced to go into the office when our more recently hired colleagues not local to the HQs won't have to.



It looks like most people will be required to go in 2-4 days/week.

Interestingly I am totally exempt from this as outside/field sales. That said, I think I will actually start going, I am pretty tired of WFH and it's getting harder and harder to stay focused all day.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Well, return to office just got real, I just got an invite that bagels will be served every Wednesday morning. The interesting thing is, how will the pre-COVID company veterans feel about being forced to go into the office when our more recently hired colleagues not local to the HQs won't have to.



It looks like most people will be required to go in 2-4 days/week.

Interestingly I am totally exempt from this as outside/field sales. That said, I think I will actually start going, I am pretty tired of WFH and it's getting harder and harder to stay focused all day.

That dynamic is weird to me...the pre and post-COVID hires. I'm a post-COVID hire with "Remote" listed as my work location. There's a bunch of people that were hired before that aren't. Unless they want to pay relo, I'm not going into an office regularly because I can't...and I was hired as remote so they'd have to fire and rehire me or something to force me in regularly. That's not fair to those that were hired before non-remote.

My company is sticking by the stance of "the office is only used for large meetings as needed, no regularly required days". Some teams have instituted one or two "anchor" days where most of the team comes in on certain days and knocks out meetings or whatever, but that's not widespread yet.

I honestly enjoy my time in the office. About once a month, I go to the Detroit or NYC office, get facetime, have great meetings, make great connections, then go home. It's 100% value added time, and I like that a lot. I HATED sitting in an office every day for no reason, now I don't have to. I hope that doesn't change.

But if it does, I'll just bail and find another remote company, or maybe find a company in a location I can live in for the winter and negotiate 9 mos in the office and the summer away or something. I'm really about this return to office nonsense, but I got lucky with a company that's pretty common sense about it.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

My setback requirement for the fire pit is minimum 25 ft from any structure, and the fire pit itself has to be < 3 ft diameter and < 2 ft high. I don't have a problem with this.

I confess that I have stupidly lit fires (in the rusty metal fire pit I'll be getting rid of) within 10 ft of my old frame house.

Yep, to your and Chris's point, I assume common sense which is probably dumb. A fire pit should be a fire pit, not an open fire on the ground next to a building.

Living in the woods, we have fires in the fire pit constantly...at least a few times a week, almost daily when we have guests visiting and want the "glamping" experience (everyone says our house feels like permanent glamping).

In doing so many fires, it's scary how unpredictable they can be...even in a steel fire pit. We have a cheap steel fire pit on our concrete patio off the concrete house with the nearest flammable object is easily 30+ feet away, so not much fire to worry about. But I'm always amazed how the right wind gust combined with the right wood and the right amount of heat can create insane flames. I've had 10 foot flames stoked by a dry strong wind gust before. Or an ember pops up and gets carried away by the wind and lands...still on fire...10-15 feet from the pit. That shit is scary, but imagine that being next to a 100 year old garage or house. Just because you don't intend on having a big fire, doesn't mean you won't have one. And people are morans most of the time, especially with firepits wanting that "nature" experience, so they push the pits back in the corner of their lots where the only things that will catch fire are neighbor's buildings. I saw it all the time in our previous neighborhoods, it's scary.

I hate most code rules, but this one I support. Fire is no joke.

[SAWCE]

I was pretty shocked to hear that your doc wanted you to stop cycling, no whey, etc.. stuff that really should have no impact on your swim team.

The juice we know has major impacts. I’ll work with a hormone clinic to get my guys up to where they need to be quicker than a normal doctor would so my bbing layoff will hopefully not be too long. I’d hate to go a full year with no gear at all lol.

Those doc's are dumbasses and I still don't really have any answers... We took a break from all of that for a while but may start looking into it again, need to get a test I guess. You might want to get one as well, you may have no problems for all you know, it could be something with Michelle or just hasn't happened yet but there's nothing to worry about.

If you've got 20 million strong swimmers in every load, that you're on the juice.

Yeah she got tested and things looked good on her end, so I’m up next for testing. I’ll stay on the juice until the tests come back and then make changes as necessary until something takes. First appt. is a few weeks out.

[wap]

Yep, to your and Chris's point, I assume common sense which is probably dumb. A fire pit should be a fire pit, not an open fire on the ground next to a building.

Living in the woods, we have fires in the fire pit constantly...at least a few times a week, almost daily when we have guests visiting and want the "glamping" experience (everyone says our house feels like permanent glamping).

In doing so many fires, it's scary how unpredictable they can be...even in a steel fire pit. We have a cheap steel fire pit on our concrete patio off the concrete house with the nearest flammable object is easily 30+ feet away, so not much fire to worry about. But I'm always amazed how the right wind gust combined with the right wood and the right amount of heat can create insane flames. I've had 10 foot flames stoked by a dry strong wind gust before. Or an ember pops up and gets carried away by the wind and lands...still on fire...10-15 feet from the pit. That shit is scary, but imagine that being next to a 100 year old garage or house. Just because you don't intend on having a big fire, doesn't mean you won't have one. And people are morans most of the time, especially with firepits wanting that "nature" experience, so they push the pits back in the corner of their lots where the only things that will catch fire are neighbor's buildings. I saw it all the time in our previous neighborhoods, it's scary.

I hate most code rules, but this one I support. Fire is no joke.

Yeah, I have zero problem with my code of needing to be at least 25ft from any structure. My pit will be more than 30ft away from my and my neighbor's house, and that is just fine by me. I usually have a garden hose near by, just in case one of those random falling embers lands on some leaves or something so I can prevent

[wap]

Goo luck, and Mrs. on trying to make s.