Jeeponomics 201: Toledo Griff

[D Griff]

I want more / better options in 2 row land. GC is old as dirt. Passport is oddly shaped. Edge is a fraud and GM’s entries blow. Morono and Santa Fe are too pudgy.

Bronc

[D Griff]

Until the Bronc lands, there is only one two row SUV that matters in this country.

[max225]

Can we talk about the wrangler 4xe ?

So the main downside I can find is the +500lbs over the 3.6 v6. But I’m really curious what sort of mpg it gets off the juice

Looks but probably a hefty price tag for something that seems rather pointless. A regular 4 cylinder can already get 400 miles of range and it pretty quick to 60. Also, MPG isn't terrible at 21-24 real world. Curious to learn more for sure, but seems more complex to me and if that will be worth the price and long term reliability.

Yea maybe 21-24 for y’all with no stop lights. I’m getting 26 in a mini so I am not expecting to crack 20 in a Jeep. But the hybrid setup + e capability seems epic because it actually makes it a Decent DD. If the E range was 70-100 miles I would put a deposit down today. 25 is not terrible but it really doesn’t work for me

[max225]

https://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/inventor ... 0lw312415/

I can’t afford a Jeep anymore ... 55k for a non 8.4 u connect non leather rubi.

$85 off ... oh yea of course FCA doesn’t make money during these trying times



Makes the trd taco even with mark up seem like a steal

[CorvetteWaxer]

https://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/inventor ... 0lw312415/

I can’t afford a Jeep anymore ... 55k for a non 8.4 u connect non leather rubi.

$85 off ... oh yea of course FCA doesn’t make money during these trying times



Makes the trd taco even with mark up seem like a steal

I should sell the JL and just let the wife drive the R. Then after we close on the house I can buy a

[Apex]

https://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/inventor ... 0lw312415/

I can’t afford a Jeep anymore ... 55k for a non 8.4 u connect non leather rubi.

$85 off ... oh yea of course FCA doesn’t make money during these trying times



Makes the trd taco even with mark up seem like a steal

I should sell the JL and just let the wife drive the R. Then after we close on the house I can buy a

[max225]

https://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/inventor ... 0lw312415/

I can’t afford a Jeep anymore ... 55k for a non 8.4 u connect non leather rubi.

$85 off ... oh yea of course FCA doesn’t make money during these trying times



Makes the trd taco even with mark up seem like a steal

I should sell the JL and just let the wife drive the R. Then after we close on the house I can buy a

That was my plan except I didn’t expect not to be able to buy anything

[max225]

https://www.carmax.com/car/18827804

who is buying these out there

[CaleDeRoo]

https://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/inventor ... 0lw312415/

I can’t afford a Jeep anymore ... 55k for a non 8.4 u connect non leather rubi.

$85 off ... oh yea of course FCA doesn’t make money during these trying times



Makes the trd taco even with mark up seem like a steal

That looks so damn cool

[max225]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/ ... 37441.html

This is the Jeep I wheeled my Buddy is selling it to get a TRX

[SAWCE]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/ ... 37441.html

This is the Jeep I wheeled my Buddy is selling it to get a TRX

How does he like the Hothead Headliner? Been looking at throwing that in mine. Supposed to be better than the Mopar liner...

[max225]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/ ... 37441.html

This is the Jeep I wheeled my Buddy is selling it to get a TRX

How does he like the Hothead Headliner? Been looking at throwing that in mine. Supposed to be better than the Mopar liner...

I asked ... he seems to confirm

[SAWCE]

How does he like the Hothead Headliner? Been looking at throwing that in mine. Supposed to be better than the Mopar liner...

I asked ... he seems to confirm

[ChrisoftheNorth]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/ ... 37441.html

This is the Jeep I wheeled my Buddy is selling it to get a TRX

The desert is where that thing shines, still won't be doing many trails with it...

[Huckleberry]

https://www.carmax.com/car/18827804

who is buying these out there

I saw an NYT article today that said used car prices have risen 16% since the pandemic started. Dealers have used 2019 GTI Rabbits listed for more than I paid for mine new.

[max225]

https://www.carmax.com/car/18827804

who is buying these out there

I saw an NYT article today that said used car prices have risen 16% since the pandemic started. Dealers have used 2019 GTI Rabbits listed for more than I paid for mine new.

Prices are rising because all the sudden there is insatiable demand for anything and everything ...

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I saw an NYT article today that said used car prices have risen 16% since the pandemic started. Dealers have used 2019 GTI Rabbits listed for more than I paid for mine new.

Prices are rising because all the sudden there is insatiable demand for anything and everything ...

Nothing makes sense anymore.

[max225]

Did zillskie get his old gig back since it’s probably the best time in history to be in a rape palace

[Apex]

Did zillskie get his old gig back since it’s probably the best time in history to be in a rape palace

He’s forever out of the dillerman life.

He’s got that grass money now.

[Huckleberry]

I saw an NYT article today that said used car prices have risen 16% since the pandemic started. Dealers have used 2019 GTI Rabbits listed for more than I paid for mine new.

Prices are rising because all the sudden there is insatiable demand for anything and everything ...

I'll be honest, it's certainly a nice time to clear shit out of my basement. It's how I've been financing the Porsche project.

[D Griff]

Looks but probably a hefty price tag for something that seems rather pointless. A regular 4 cylinder can already get 400 miles of range and it pretty quick to 60. Also, MPG isn't terrible at 21-24 real world. Curious to learn more for sure, but seems more complex to me and if that will be worth the price and long term reliability.

Yea maybe 21-24 for y’all with no stop lights. I’m getting 26 in a mini so I am not expecting to crack 20 in a Jeep. But the hybrid setup + e capability seems epic because it actually makes it a Decent DD. If the E range was 70-100 miles I would put a deposit down today. 25 is not terrible but it really doesn’t work for me

:ino: the wife commutes daily about 6-7 miles each way in a 100% urban setting and the average per the computer is 21-22 MPG. We just drove it to the beach this weekend, 175 miles each way plus a bit of around twon derping once we got there and it indicated 27.1 for the trip. It tends to be 1-2 mpg optimistic based on when I've hand calculated.

She did the same type of commuting in her old Fusion and got virtually the same MPG, so it's likely that your MINI just really sucks with fuel efficiency more than anything crazy about your environment. It is a car that dumps gas for the sole purpose of making pop pop noises, is it not?

[D Griff]

And yes, pricing is We could make a profit on the JLU right now, over 5K miles in.

[max225]

Yea maybe 21-24 for y’all with no stop lights. I’m getting 26 in a mini so I am not expecting to crack 20 in a Jeep. But the hybrid setup + e capability seems epic because it actually makes it a Decent DD. If the E range was 70-100 miles I would put a deposit down today. 25 is not terrible but it really doesn’t work for me

:ino: the wife commutes daily about 6-7 miles each way in a 100% urban setting and the average per the computer is 21-22 MPG. We just drove it to the beach this weekend, 175 miles each way plus a bit of around twon derping once we got there and it indicated 27.1 for the trip. It tends to be 1-2 mpg optimistic based on when I've hand calculated.

She did the same type of commuting in her old Fusion and got virtually the same MPG, so it's likely that your MINI just really sucks with fuel efficiency more than anything crazy about your environment. It is a car that dumps gas for the sole purpose of making pop pop noises, is it not?

No, people just drive faster here than elsewhere in the country and with the pandemic 85 is the new 65.

I was never able to get advertised mpg in my tdi either. While those who go 55-60mph get 50mpg. That’s not a safe speed here. Unless you want to be surrounded by countless tractor trailers throwing all kinds of shit into your windshield.

is averaging 15-16 IIRC

[D Griff]

:ino: the wife commutes daily about 6-7 miles each way in a 100% urban setting and the average per the computer is 21-22 MPG. We just drove it to the beach this weekend, 175 miles each way plus a bit of around twon derping once we got there and it indicated 27.1 for the trip. It tends to be 1-2 mpg optimistic based on when I've hand calculated.

She did the same type of commuting in her old Fusion and got virtually the same MPG, so it's likely that your MINI just really sucks with fuel efficiency more than anything crazy about your environment. It is a car that dumps gas for the sole purpose of making pop pop noises, is it not?

No, people just drive faster here than elsewhere in the country and with the pandemic 85 is the new 65.

I was never able to get advertised mpg in my tdi either. While those who go 55-60mph get 50mpg. That’s not a safe speed here. Unless you want to be surrounded by countless tractor trailers throwing all kinds of shit into your windshield.

is averaging 15-16 IIRC

That is ... I have been passed by cops while traveling at 90+ in CA many times with no issue, that is a no-go here. You simply wouldn't drive a that fast though because it is awful. So you may actually get better highway MPG in a than a MINI in California

[max225]

No, people just drive faster here than elsewhere in the country and with the pandemic 85 is the new 65.

I was never able to get advertised mpg in my tdi either. While those who go 55-60mph get 50mpg. That’s not a safe speed here. Unless you want to be surrounded by countless tractor trailers throwing all kinds of shit into your windshield.

is averaging 15-16 IIRC

That is ... I have been passed by cops while traveling at 90+ in CA many times with no issue, that is a no-go here. You simply wouldn't drive a that fast though because it is awful. So you may actually get better highway MPG in a than a MINI in California

And on regular ! Then again I drive a 110hp taco @85 and that’s all she’s got