I support this plan. Doing Nothing 2020.4zilch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:20 pmSo, do nothing and continue to moan about STi ride quality on Philly streets?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:17 pm
Yep we have. And my same exact response happened last time as is happening this time. I don't care because it's not happening. I'm not dropping $1700 + install (because city) on a science experiment based on forumbro vape reviews that likely ride worse and will lower the value of my car.
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I beat the drum of fixing the thing you don't like about the car you otherwise love because I was too stupid to do it myself and regret it.
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Look, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:25 pm
I beat the drum of fixing the thing you don't like about the car you otherwise love because I was too stupid to do it myself and regret it.
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
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Gotta risk it for the biscuit.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pmLook, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:25 pm
I beat the drum of fixing the thing you don't like about the car you otherwise love because I was too stupid to do it myself and regret it.
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
It's still cheaper than even if you throw the coilovers in the garbage.
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Let me tell you about my favorite tune and air intake and downpipe comboJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pmLook, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:25 pm
I beat the drum of fixing the thing you don't like about the car you otherwise love because I was too stupid to do it myself and regret it.
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
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That’s what it comes down tomax225 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:16 pmLet me tell you about my favorite tune and air intake and downpipe comboJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pm
Look, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
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Which is exactly why I stopped modding, there are few exceptions, where OEMs actually go to aftermarket to get the tech/improvement.
The sole examples of where Aftermarket is better than OEM is
Brembo Brakes/Some willwood brakes
Billstein/fox shocks
Michelin Tires
The rest is a fking shot in the dark, with pimple faced dudes with laptops jerking off to reddit while looking through /Shittycarmods
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Some mods are totally fine and really straightforward in what they will do or change. Others are more dubious. And when it comes to suspension it’s almost impossible to back any tuner co claims because all the reviews from people that purchased are hype. They conflict each other too. One person says Ohlins ride better than stock. Other person says it’s stiffer but better controlled. So which is it?max225 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:22 pmWhich is exactly why I stopped modding, there are few exceptions, where OEMs actually go to aftermarket to get the tech/improvement.
The sole examples of where Aftermarket is better than OEM is
Brembo Brakes/Some willwood brakes
Billstein/fox shocks
Michelin Tires
The rest is a fking shot in the dark, with pimple faced dudes with laptops jerking off to reddit while looking through /Shittycarmods
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dude fuck that. keep that stock suspension, fuck what others think who lives in a suburbia with much better roads. Just at the meet last week, we have a guy that runs e85 and is38 (aka ko4 for mk7), with coils, clutch and so on. He just drove one of our guys stock mk7.5 just like and said I forgot how the car felt good stock. I'm also glad I'm only on lowering springs and but nothing else performance wise, and it's still an excellent daily, especially now that I commute to DC now.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:17 pmYep we have. And my same exact response happened last time as is happening this time. I don't care because it's not happening. I'm not dropping $1700 + install (because city) on a science experiment based on forumbro vape reviews that likely ride worse and will lower the value of my car.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:43 pm http://fealsuspension.com/feal-coilovers/#feal-4
441+ Max Travel w/ whatever spring rate your heart desires for $1700... We have indeed been over this before.
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very muchmax225 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:22 pmWhich is exactly why I stopped modding, there are few exceptions, where OEMs actually go to aftermarket to get the tech/improvement.
The sole examples of where Aftermarket is better than OEM is
Brembo Brakes/Some willwood brakes
Billstein/fox shocks
Michelin Tires
The rest is a fking shot in the dark, with pimple faced dudes with laptops jerking off to reddit while looking through /Shittycarmods
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E-Mail Geoff dude.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pm Look, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
http://cygnusperformance.com/cart.php?t ... ory_id=778
Stick with OEM top hats, go with rates close to OEM, get the long travel option and upgrade to the Swift or Hyperco springs. Fortune Autos are good shit.
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What do those guys know about suspension? They don't get paid to make powerpoints.coogles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:51 pmE-Mail Geoff dude.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pm Look, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
http://cygnusperformance.com/cart.php?t ... ory_id=778
Stick with OEM top hats, go with rates close to OEM, get the long travel option and upgrade to the Swift or Hyperco springs. Fortune Autos are good shit.
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That's an expensive set of comfort coilovers holy fuck. I'd rather Bilstein B6 shock and call it a day lol.coogles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:51 pmE-Mail Geoff dude.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pm Look, I'd fix it if I had any sort of concrete evidence that these new parts would solve the problem. The issue is, only reviews out there are forumbros that are so hyped up on new part honeymooning that they cannot say anything bad about their retarded $2k expenditure. Then 6 months later you see a post from them saying they got rid of said part because it "rode worse than stock" and "this new suspension rides so much better it's ridiculous". And then 6 months later they're back to stock and "man the stock suspension is so comfortable compared to the old part X I had."
I have nowhere to change a suspension. So I'd be having a shop do the install and then an alignment, each time. And while I hate dealerships the most, I hate repair shops almost as much. My desire to go through that and end up with a 25% chance the new parts are any sort of improvement it is just about 0.
http://cygnusperformance.com/cart.php?t ... ory_id=778
Stick with OEM top hats, go with rates close to OEM, get the long travel option and upgrade to the Swift or Hyperco springs. Fortune Autos are good shit.
Johnny, my frame of reference is a little tainted, but my STi is pretty damn soft compared to my stock suspension 911 with slightly oversized and wider tires. It rides a little harsher than my old E90 M3 with Ohlins coilovers, though, so I denno.
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