Crangshaft Aftermath: Deep Kosher Roast

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Seriously though, what can I be expecting?

The problem is, camshafts don't just "break" something else is wrong.

[goIftdibrad]

Seriously though, what can I be expecting?

The problem is, camshafts don't just "break" something else is wrong.

[stripethree]

Seriously though, what can I be expecting?

To grab your ankles and/or spend a lot of time fighting with a dealership.

I haven't read everything but I hope you haven't told them or posted publicly that it's tuned. Any other power related mods?

[stripethree]

The problem is, camshafts don't just "break" something else is wrong.

[nuggstein]

Seriously though, what can I be expecting?

To grab your ankles and/or spend a lot of time fighting with a dealership.

I haven't read everything but I hope you haven't told them or posted publicly that it's tuned. Any other power related mods?

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

[Desertbreh]

To grab your ankles and/or spend a lot of time fighting with a dealership.

I haven't read everything but I hope you haven't told them or posted publicly that it's tuned. Any other power related mods?

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

Isn't this outside of warranty tune or no tune?

[stripethree]

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

Well, hopefully they don't change their tune and point to it as a culprit and a reason not to warranty shit or own up to potentially poor work they did.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

Isn't this outside of warranty tune or no tune?

What is sketchy to me and where this will get sticky is that whatever failed...is not the car's fault. It can't be a coincidence that they tore the intake manifold off and did all this head work and then 2 days later something catastrophically fails with the valvetrain that they touched. Something wasn't done right originally, but they have multiple outs. The t00n, the out of powertrain warranty, etc.

[wap]

What color Jetta are you getting?

Jokes jokes jokes. No seriously I'd dump the car. Get a civic hatch.

Mazda3 hatch from [user not found].

[Desertbreh]

Isn't this outside of warranty tune or no tune?

What is sketchy to me and where this will get sticky is that whatever failed...is not the car's fault. It can't be a coincidence that they tore the intake manifold off and did all this head work and then 2 days later something catastrophically fails with the valvetrain that they touched. Something wasn't done right originally, but they have multiple outs. The t00n, the out of powertrain warranty, etc.

Dis.

[wap]

Knee jerk reaction.

Broken Camshaft. Whew, NOT an engine problem.

[Barnes93cb]

My only fear would be elevators. Fuck those things.

Ever been in one that feel?

Nope. Completely irrational fear for no reason.

[fledonfoot]

To grab your ankles and/or spend a lot of time fighting with a dealership.

I haven't read everything but I hope you haven't told them or posted publicly that it's tuned. Any other power related mods?

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

They may be a tune friendly dealership, but they're not a friendly dealership. Their initial actions in wanting to charge you for the diagnosis shows this.

You need to keep the pressure on them, and bang the drum that you were given a car back that was not right, and was told it was fine. They upsold you a carbon cleaning, tires, and a bunch of other stuff along with a warranty repair... an "ideal" service customer.

It sounds like in the past you've spent a shitload of money with them, too. Bring up that you've spent lots of money in the past with them (I assume that this was the same dealer that did your massive service I remember you posting about on DFD2.0). Remind the service manager that you've spent lots of money with them in the past, that you've trusted them for years with your car. Remind him that it came in with one problem, almost didn't leave because of fuel pressure related issues (after they replace major fuel system components, no less), and within a handful of miles got towed back in blown up. Many red flags should be raised.

As long as you've spent serious money with them in the past - which I believe you have - you play the loyalty card with them. You've spent dealer service rates for years and shown your loyalty. It's about time that the dealer steps up to take care of their loyal customer and make things right.

If you've spent several thousand dollars on service with that dealer in the past, there are ways they can help you, including Goodwill manufacturer support.

And if you keep getting pushback, ask for a detailed quote for the repair. Then contact VWoA corporate and open up a case.

[razr390]

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

They may be a tune friendly dealership, but they're not a friendly dealership. Their initial actions in wanting to charge you for the diagnosis shows this.

You need to keep the pressure on them, and bang the drum that you were given a car back that was not right, and was told it was fine. They upsold you a carbon cleaning, tires, and a bunch of other stuff along with a warranty repair... an "ideal" service customer.

It sounds like in the past you've spent a shitload of money with them, too. Bring up that you've spent lots of money in the past with them (I assume that this was the same dealer that did your massive service I remember you posting about on DFD2.0). Remind the service manager that you've spent lots of money with them in the past, that you've trusted them for years with your car. Remind him that it came in with one problem, almost didn't leave because of fuel pressure related issues (after they replace major fuel system components, no less), and within a handful of miles got towed back in blown up. Many red flags should be raised.

As long as you've spent serious money with them in the past - which I believe you have - you play the loyalty card with them. You've spent dealer service rates for years and shown your loyalty. It's about time that the dealer steps up to take care of their loyal customer and make things right.

If you've spent several thousand dollars on service with that dealer in the past, there are ways they can help you, including Goodwill manufacturer support.

And if you keep getting pushback, ask for a detailed quote for the repair. Then contact VWoA corporate and open up a case.

I don't think you understood his problem. Your response is too detailed and therefore won't know what to do.

He needs more of the juicy ambiguity.

[Desertbreh]

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

They may be a tune friendly dealership, but they're not a friendly dealership. Their initial actions in wanting to charge you for the diagnosis shows this.

You need to keep the pressure on them, and bang the drum that you were given a car back that was not right, and was told it was fine. They upsold you a carbon cleaning, tires, and a bunch of other stuff along with a warranty repair... an "ideal" service customer.

It sounds like in the past you've spent a shitload of money with them, too. Bring up that you've spent lots of money in the past with them (I assume that this was the same dealer that did your massive service I remember you posting about on DFD2.0). Remind the service manager that you've spent lots of money with them in the past, that you've trusted them for years with your car. Remind him that it came in with one problem, almost didn't leave because of fuel pressure related issues (after they replace major fuel system components, no less), and within a handful of miles got towed back in blown up. Many red flags should be raised.

As long as you've spent serious money with them in the past - which I believe you have - you play the loyalty card with them. You've spent dealer service rates for years and shown your loyalty. It's about time that the dealer steps up to take care of their loyal customer and make things right.

If you've spent several thousand dollars on service with that dealer in the past, there are ways they can help you, including Goodwill manufacturer support.

And if you keep getting pushback, ask for a detailed quote for the repair. Then contact VWoA corporate and open up a case.

ITT the difference between TOON FRIENDLY and FRIENDLY is explained with the brushstrokes of a master.

[wap]

Mazda3 hatch from [user not found].

If he’s serious, I’m serious. Crang, you’ve got my number.

I'm serious. I think this would be a great move for him. It's all the car he needs while still being somewhat fun to drive.

[fledonfoot]

They may be a tune friendly dealership, but they're not a friendly dealership. Their initial actions in wanting to charge you for the diagnosis shows this.

You need to keep the pressure on them, and bang the drum that you were given a car back that was not right, and was told it was fine. They upsold you a carbon cleaning, tires, and a bunch of other stuff along with a warranty repair... an "ideal" service customer.

It sounds like in the past you've spent a shitload of money with them, too. Bring up that you've spent lots of money in the past with them (I assume that this was the same dealer that did your massive service I remember you posting about on DFD2.0). Remind the service manager that you've spent lots of money with them in the past, that you've trusted them for years with your car. Remind him that it came in with one problem, almost didn't leave because of fuel pressure related issues (after they replace major fuel system components, no less), and within a handful of miles got towed back in blown up. Many red flags should be raised.

As long as you've spent serious money with them in the past - which I believe you have - you play the loyalty card with them. You've spent dealer service rates for years and shown your loyalty. It's about time that the dealer steps up to take care of their loyal customer and make things right.

If you've spent several thousand dollars on service with that dealer in the past, there are ways they can help you, including Goodwill manufacturer support.

And if you keep getting pushback, ask for a detailed quote for the repair. Then contact VWoA corporate and open up a case.

I don't think you understood his problem. Your response is too detailed and therefore won't know what to do.

He needs more of the juicy ambiguity.

True.

Us: DON'T START THE FUCKING CAR

Him: Guys I had to start the car so they could tow it out.

I can't believe he tipped the tow driver for it.

Or maybe I can. I don't know.

[wap]

Thread title is 5/7

[Johnny_P]

Knee jerk reaction.

Broken Camshaft. Whew, NOT an engine problem.

POT mother fucking D

[Johnny_P]

They're a tune friendly dealership. They did my Stage 1 for me. When my car was still under warranty, they still covered everything. No aftermarket parts or anything.

They may be a tune friendly dealership, but they're not a friendly dealership. Their initial actions in wanting to charge you for the diagnosis shows this.

You need to keep the pressure on them, and bang the drum that you were given a car back that was not right, and was told it was fine. They upsold you a carbon cleaning, tires, and a bunch of other stuff along with a warranty repair... an "ideal" service customer.

It sounds like in the past you've spent a shitload of money with them, too. Bring up that you've spent lots of money in the past with them (I assume that this was the same dealer that did your massive service I remember you posting about on DFD2.0). Remind the service manager that you've spent lots of money with them in the past, that you've trusted them for years with your car. Remind him that it came in with one problem, almost didn't leave because of fuel pressure related issues (after they replace major fuel system components, no less), and within a handful of miles got towed back in blown up. Many red flags should be raised.

As long as you've spent serious money with them in the past - which I believe you have - you play the loyalty card with them. You've spent dealer service rates for years and shown your loyalty. It's about time that the dealer steps up to take care of their loyal customer and make things right.

If you've spent several thousand dollars on service with that dealer in the past, there are ways they can help you, including Goodwill manufacturer support.

And if you keep getting pushback, ask for a detailed quote for the repair. Then contact VWoA corporate and open up a case.

But what is he supposed to do?

[Johnny_P]

Seriously though, what can I be expecting?

The problem is, camshafts don't just "break" something else is wrong.

Look it up. It’s a thing with VW 2.0T engines. FSI did it more often than the TSI. I think it has to do with the fuel pump being on the end of the camshaft.

[fledonfoot]

They may be a tune friendly dealership, but they're not a friendly dealership. Their initial actions in wanting to charge you for the diagnosis shows this.

You need to keep the pressure on them, and bang the drum that you were given a car back that was not right, and was told it was fine. They upsold you a carbon cleaning, tires, and a bunch of other stuff along with a warranty repair... an "ideal" service customer.

It sounds like in the past you've spent a shitload of money with them, too. Bring up that you've spent lots of money in the past with them (I assume that this was the same dealer that did your massive service I remember you posting about on DFD2.0). Remind the service manager that you've spent lots of money with them in the past, that you've trusted them for years with your car. Remind him that it came in with one problem, almost didn't leave because of fuel pressure related issues (after they replace major fuel system components, no less), and within a handful of miles got towed back in blown up. Many red flags should be raised.

As long as you've spent serious money with them in the past - which I believe you have - you play the loyalty card with them. You've spent dealer service rates for years and shown your loyalty. It's about time that the dealer steps up to take care of their loyal customer and make things right.

If you've spent several thousand dollars on service with that dealer in the past, there are ways they can help you, including Goodwill manufacturer support.

And if you keep getting pushback, ask for a detailed quote for the repair. Then contact VWoA corporate and open up a case.

But what is he supposed to do?

If only someone had any advice.

[Johnny_P]

Mazda3 hatch from [user not found].

If he’s serious, I’m serious. Crang, you’ve got my number.

Buying a Mazda 3 or CX5 is a pretty damn solid option IMO. I'd get the FUCK outta that car. But that's just me. Crang isn't mechanically inclined at all, and will take way less of an anal pounding at the Mazda dealership since those cars hardly ever break.

#notmyproblem

[nuggstein]

Hello. So basically service manager just called me, said they have checked for engine leaks, air stuff (i don't remember his word) and everything seems to be okay, no bent valves, etc. So I guess it broke in the best possible way? He is recommending replacing BOTH cams (since the other one could go at around 80k miles), instead of just one. He said even with that fuel pressure light there was no way they could've even detected it would have been a camshaft cracking, it's an extremely uncommon problem.

He is sending me a quote and his recommendations. Will post it here for some suggestions before I go to VWoA. They did open the engine up and not charge me because I take care of the car and have paid a lot for their services.

[Johnny_P]

Hello. So basically service manager just called me, said they have checked for engine leaks, air stuff (i don't remember his word) and everything seems to be okay, no bent valves, etc. So I guess it broke in the best possible way? He is recommending replacing BOTH cams (since the other one could go at around 80k miles), instead of just one. He said even with that fuel pressure light there was no way they could've even detected it would have been a camshaft cracking, it's an extremely uncommon problem.

He is sending me a quote and his recommendations. Will post it here for some suggestions before I go to VWoA. They did open the engine up and not charge me because I take care of the car and have paid a lot for their services.

Why replace both cams, that makes no sense at all. Replace your broken camshaft and then replace the car.