what in teh fuck is your avatar. Its terrible.Devilchrono wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:18 pmJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:03 pm
Yes its theft. It's also extreme negligence on the owner's part. Many times when these cars are stolen they're just taken for joyrides and ultimately crashed into other cars/homes/buildings/etc. Sometimes people get really injured from that. IMO the owner is partly liable for that since they're the idiot that allowed it to happen in the first place.
Former coworker of mine had her brand new Veloster stolen a week after buying it because she left it running while she ran in to get a coffee and cigs. It was recovered on the other side of the state 12 hours later. Even though the car was recovered without damage or incident with the police, her insurance still went up because it was left running unattended
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dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:27 pmlook at that. i bet if you had a gun, you'd have gone looking for trouble! Thankfully you are unarmed.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:21 pm What is it with owners and leaving them running all of the time?
Some clown with a loud ass left it running in the middle of the street for over an hour last night, from around 2 to 3:20 in the fucking morning. I wanted to go do something about it, but I assume anyone who would own a probably also will want to shoot me for finding his inconsiderate ass to be annoying.
Fuck trucks. I hate the people of this fucking country.
Untrained people shouldn't have guns.
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dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:27 pmwhat in teh fuck is your avatar. Its terrible.Devilchrono wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:18 pm
Former coworker of mine had her brand new Veloster stolen a week after buying it because she left it running while she ran in to get a coffee and cigs. It was recovered on the other side of the state 12 hours later. Even though the car was recovered without damage or incident with the police, her insurance still went up because it was left running unattended
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Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:51 pmDiesels? Most people will idle diesels because they don't want to deal with glow plugs and warming up. Which is stupid because modern diesels are quick to start. Most of it is just dick flexing I think.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:47 pm I only notice it in owners... Of course that is almost every single here. I'm tempted to install an electric cutout on the RX8 and OPEN the valve every time I'm in the neighborhood. I hate these people.
That's why I asked the diesel question, too. But you're right. My brother's 2012 JSW TDI fires right up even when it's below zero out.
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Agreed.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:03 pmYes its theft. It's also extreme negligence on the owner's part. Many times when these cars are stolen they're just taken for joyrides and ultimately crashed into other cars/homes/buildings/etc. Sometimes people get really injured from that. IMO the owner is partly liable for that since they're the idiot that allowed it to happen in the first place.
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max225 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:06 pmCouldn’t disagree more.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:03 pm
Yes its theft. It's also extreme negligence on the owner's part. Many times when these cars are stolen they're just taken for joyrides and ultimately crashed into other cars/homes/buildings/etc. Sometimes people get really injured from that. IMO the owner is partly liable for that since they're the idiot that allowed it to happen in the first place.
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dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:27 pmwhat in teh fuck is your avatar. Its terrible.Devilchrono wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:18 pm
Former coworker of mine had her brand new Veloster stolen a week after buying it because she left it running while she ran in to get a coffee and cigs. It was recovered on the other side of the state 12 hours later. Even though the car was recovered without damage or incident with the police, her insurance still went up because it was left running unattended
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I'm going to go with you on this one.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:06 pmCouldn’t disagree more.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:03 pm
Yes its theft. It's also extreme negligence on the owner's part. Many times when these cars are stolen they're just taken for joyrides and ultimately crashed into other cars/homes/buildings/etc. Sometimes people get really injured from that. IMO the owner is partly liable for that since they're the idiot that allowed it to happen in the first place.
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Your car is your property, just because it is running doesn't make it someone else's. You could have many reasons for it.
Fuck most cars feature remote starts now... what does that mean? Should it be illegal?
You're free to get in and take off? Blame the owner for it? Because obviously, he wanted it stolen?
So if you don't "lock" your doors when driving through the hood and someone pulls your door open and yanks you out of your car and steals it... it is your fault too?
What kind of ass backwards logic is this.
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There shouldn't be a baseline assumption that the entire world is filled with criminals who will steal anything if given an opportunity.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:30 pmYour car is your property, just because it is running doesn't make it someone else's. You could have many reasons for it.
Fuck most cars feature remote starts now... what does that mean? Should it be illegal?
You're free to get in and take off? Blame the owner for it? Because obviously, he wanted it stolen?
So if you don't "lock" your doors when driving through the hood and someone pulls your door open and yanks you out of your car and steals it... it is your fault too?
What kind of ass backwards logic is this.
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Shouldn't, but that's the reality.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:37 pmThere shouldn't be a baseline assumption that the entire world is filled with criminals who will steal anything if given an opportunity.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:30 pm
Your car is your property, just because it is running doesn't make it someone else's. You could have many reasons for it.
Fuck most cars feature remote starts now... what does that mean? Should it be illegal?
You're free to get in and take off? Blame the owner for it? Because obviously, he wanted it stolen?
So if you don't "lock" your doors when driving through the hood and someone pulls your door open and yanks you out of your car and steals it... it is your fault too?
What kind of ass backwards logic is this.
Leave your iPhone on a city bench and see how long it lasts...
Leaving your car running unlocked with the keys in the ignition is negligence. Remote start locks the car and won't let it move from park.
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The world is rotten, essentially.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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AND always lock your doors in a bad hood. If someone walks up to your door, drive away. I've had it happen plenty to me driving in the bad areas. Be aware of yourself, your possessions, and your surroundings.
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iPhone <<<>>> car though. You don’t normally leave a phone on a city bench. At that point it’s something you lost. But leaving a car running ... that means something entirely differentDetroit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:43 pmShouldn't, but that's the reality.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:37 pm
There shouldn't be a baseline assumption that the entire world is filled with criminals who will steal anything if given an opportunity.
Leave your iPhone on a city bench and see how long it lasts...
Leaving your car running unlocked with the keys in the ignition is negligence. Remote start locks the car and won't let it move from park.
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Well if the iPhone isn't there when you come back then it was stolen, not lost. Same with leaving a bike unlocked outside on a busy street. A car though, if you have that same attitude, leave it running unlocked, and someone steals it, your actions have the chance of putting people in danger. Nobody is in danger when someone steals an iPhone or bicycle. Plenty of people are in danger when someone steals a car and goes on a high speed joyride/chase.
if you left a loaded gun on a park bench and just walked away from it would that be negligent? What if someone died from it, would it be traced back to you? You bet your ass it would.
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wap wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:26 pmThat's pretty fucked up. Was it a diesel?troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:21 pm What is it with owners and leaving them running all of the time?
Some clown with a loud ass left it running in the middle of the street for over an hour last night, from around 2 to 3:20 in the fucking morning. I wanted to go do something about it, but I assume anyone who would own a probably also will want to shoot me for finding his inconsiderate ass to be annoying.
Fuck trucks. I hate the people of this fucking country.
I never see that here, sure people leave them running when going into a corner store for a coke or something, but never for hours in the driveway.
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Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:57 pmWell if the iPhone isn't there when you come back then it was stolen, not lost. Same with leaving a bike unlocked outside on a busy street. A car though, if you have that same attitude, leave it running unlocked, and someone steals it, your actions have the chance of putting people in danger. Nobody is in danger when someone steals an iPhone or bicycle. Plenty of people are in danger when someone steals a car and goes on a high speed joyride/chase.
if you left a loaded gun on a park bench and just walked away from it would that be negligent? What if someone died from it, would it be traced back to you? You bet your ass it would.
Shutting off your car and taking your key with you has ZERO impact on anything. It's the same level of negligence as leaving a phone or gun unattended in public. Even in cold states like I live in, the car doesn't get that cold in 5 minutes. There's just no reason other
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Danger? As in someone who is asshole enough to the crime of stealing my car, and then ramming it into others is my fault?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:57 pmWell if the iPhone isn't there when you come back then it was stolen, not lost. Same with leaving a bike unlocked outside on a busy street. A car though, if you have that same attitude, leave it running unlocked, and someone steals it, your actions have the chance of putting people in danger. Nobody is in danger when someone steals an iPhone or bicycle. Plenty of people are in danger when someone steals a car and goes on a high speed joyride/chase.
if you left a loaded gun on a park bench and just walked away from it would that be negligent? What if someone died from it, would it be traced back to you? You bet your ass it would.
We are in total disagreement on this.
It is my car I do what I please with it, it is my property. If I want to run it 24/7 so be it. Leave it unlocked so be it. It doesn't make me complicit in crimes that I have no part in.
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Why is it OK to leave your car running unattended? It just makes zero sense.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:29 pmDanger? As in someone who is asshole enough to the crime of stealing my car, and then ramming it into others is my fault?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:57 pm
Well if the iPhone isn't there when you come back then it was stolen, not lost. Same with leaving a bike unlocked outside on a busy street. A car though, if you have that same attitude, leave it running unlocked, and someone steals it, your actions have the chance of putting people in danger. Nobody is in danger when someone steals an iPhone or bicycle. Plenty of people are in danger when someone steals a car and goes on a high speed joyride/chase.
if you left a loaded gun on a park bench and just walked away from it would that be negligent? What if someone died from it, would it be traced back to you? You bet your ass it would.
We are in total disagreement on this.
It is my car I do what I please with it, it is my property. If I want to run it 24/7 so be it. Leave it unlocked so be it. It doesn't make me complicit in crimes that I have no part in.
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Uh, vehicles can be used as weapons.
Have you forgotten about all the that happened in europe with this? It's not cool.
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Oh look, drawing conclusions nobody implied again.
Car owners need to exercise the same level of responsibility as gun owners. How is this not understandable?
Apparently you're cool with people running around leaving guns anywhere. Not the gun owner's fault that someone uses it for bad stuff.
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