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Tarspin wrote:I'm thinking that buy and hold whatever is cheaper then :plac: or lease.
:dat: :dat: :dat:

Especially if you're a :derp: like me who mods everything at least a little bit.

Dunno if I'll ever get to that point :doe:

I think my only chance at eliminating :plac: is if I get a garaj mahal so that my stupidity can be focused on a race car, while the DD and tow vehicles are mere tools that don't get traded until they're falling apart.
That would make sense, but aside from the purple bass boat you are doing pretty good overall on the financial piece.
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max225 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:19 pm
How are you liking the dct in the m2? That’s my main concern with the m3. I wasn’t super happy with that trans in the test drive
The M4 I drove today was fantastic, and the M3s I've driven in the past have been fine.

My only qualms about any DCT I've driven thus far aside from Porsche's PDK is how long it takes to engage reverse.
I see or feel an occasional delay in reverse and only if cold....thats it.
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:04 pm Kings of marketing, this was the first thing you see when you walk in. ImageImageImage
Good to show exactly what it wont be going through...no if they just had a nice display of Mall Crawling with it covered in shopping bags in the back seats Id pay attention LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:00 pm Honda products looking :notbad: after spending enough time with the KoreansImageImageImageImageImageImageImage
I wish they’d build a Fit Si/R - 180-200 HP, LSD, and maybe a slightly wider track.
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:58 pm Listen guys, the Lobster is ugly. I'm sorry.

I didn't mind the look of the aquatic neon yellow frog thing though....ImageImage
I’m not crazy about the back end on these, but it doesn’t turn me off enough to not consider one.

It looks kinda big in these pics - any feel for how it compares to the outgoing model are a GTI size wise?
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:58 pm Listen guys, the Lobster is ugly. I'm sorry.

I didn't mind the look of the aquatic neon yellow frog thing though....ImageImage
I’m not crazy about the back end on these, but it doesn’t turn me off enough to not consider one.

It looks kinda big in these pics - any feel for how it compares to the outgoing model are a GTI size wise?
I find that cars look bigger when they are propped up on ramps like that. Hars to gauge but I think its the same size as gti
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Anyone hear from Tokyo Griff? He's got the Cayman this weekend. Interested to hear what he thinks.
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Time to buy?? They fixed the headgasket issue - http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/fo ... s-rs-april
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:47 pm Anyone hear from Tokyo Griff? He's got the Cayman this weekend. Interested to hear what he thinks.
He sent a snapfap pic.He said it's kind of a POS but he'll review it on DFD next week.
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wap wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:20 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:47 pm Anyone hear from Tokyo Griff? He's got the Cayman this weekend. Interested to hear what he thinks.
He sent a snapfap pic.He said it's kind of a POS but he'll review it on DFD next week.
Dang
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Davestr wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:14 pm Time to buy?? They fixed the headgasket issue - http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/fo ... s-rs-april
I don't know why I never really took to these. They're probably really good to drive. New Focus should come out this year.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:31 pm
wap wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:20 pm

He sent a snapfap pic.He said it's kind of a POS but he'll review it on DFD next week.
Dang
I know. Curious to read his opinions.
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Davestr wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:22 pm http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture ... at-dealer/


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Yep, I got fucked on the ST trade in. Dealer said the would take the Cobb exhaust off for me and then when I came back with the stock exhaust they were like oh we cant do it because it involves a weld when we had already discussed the welding before I signed for the Taco
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:43 pm
troyguitar wrote:We can get the custom colors, but only on Audi and Porsche stuff. :thanksobama:

That being said, a base A3 Quattro with a cool color and sport package for like $35k isn't too bad. The problem is that it's worth $15k in 3-4 years.
I think people sell their cars way too often. Keeping a new 35k car for 8-10 yrs isn't terrible is it?
Keeping the same car for 8-10 years ? :disgust: sure then in your best years you get to drive 1 car ... boring
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troyguitar wrote:
max225 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:45 pm :whocares: about this car, so many other great performance cars available right now
Same specs as a 370Z, even looks similar, but 10+ years later. :fullretard:
Also... BMW (un)reliability in a Toyota? :notsure:
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D Griff wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:44 pm
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Same specs as a 370Z, even looks similar, but 10+ years later. :fullretard:
Also... BMW (un)reliability in a Toyota? :notsure:
Oh hai griff
Yes that is a real concern. Engine out for a VANOS repair isn’t something your average Toyota owner wants or understands.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:47 pm Anyone hear from Tokyo Griff? He's got the Cayman this weekend. Interested to hear what he thinks.
:hai:

I shall make a review/thread.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:58 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:47 pm Anyone hear from Tokyo Griff? He's got the Cayman this weekend. Interested to hear what he thinks.
:hai:

I shall make a review/thread.
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Lease is almost up in a few months. Already at 5,xxx miles over the cap. Dad is the registered owner/lease holder and he's traveling during the months that the turn-in is due. So, for sake of proactivity we are already exploring other options, but for the most part they are as follows:

1. Keep the car
- The car would be financed based on residual value according to lease/purchase agreement (which is around $13,xxx IIRC).
- The car has had NO major issues even outside of the warranty
- The car is OUT OF WARRANTY
- The car has 65,xxx miles

2. Upgrade through VW into a new Golf/GTI/etc
- VW Credit relationship is good, and they will offer a nice rate/deal on a new car
- Helps soften the mileage overage fee blow, and eliminates early lease termination fees
- New car
- 2018 Model Year VW's get 6 year/72,000 mile warranty
- Carefree motoring for SIX YEARS.

3. Return GTI, take over 2017 Passat R-Line lease from my mom, and let her get her dream car.
- R-Line is a sweet looking, reliable car
- Comfortable and payment is lower than GTI's.
- Urano grey, LED lighting package on headlights and taillights :jimp:
- Kind of dull to drive, but a car is a car.

4. Get a Charger (Daytona 5.7L preferred, but I'll take any)
- New/CPO/Used TBD depending on deals

5. Get a beater car for a few years, save up some :waxer: and go from there.
- If I keep the GTI, payments would effectively be $17x-$2xx/month as a lease-to-own (one option)
- Get a used car
- Etc.

6. New appliance level car to beat the shit out of
- Maybe a GM product with Detroit :dill:




I am leaning pretty heavy on keeping the GTI for now, since I drove it from new, maintenance was done every 10k miles (even 8.5-9k) and it has no real known issues to it. Could use a detail, but otherwise perfect. Monthly would effectively lower by almost 1/2.

:iono:
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Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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razr390 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 pm4. Get a Charger (Daytona 5.7L preferred, but I'll take any)
- New/CPO/Used TBD depending on deals
:narc: :narc: :narc:
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:narc: :narc: :narc:

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troyguitar wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:35 pm
razr390 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 pm4. Get a Charger (Daytona 5.7L preferred, but I'll take any)
- New/CPO/Used TBD depending on deals
:narc: :narc: :narc:
:narc: :neek: :narc:
:narc: :narc: :narc:

:doit:
I just might, if the :dill: are good on them. Usually FCA tends to throw a few $thousand on their hoods
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Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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I would say just keep the GTI. Most other stuff you're looking at will be more money for a worse car. I like the Charger but it's a huge boat, wait on that until you have kids or something. Gas also seems to be getting expensive again, I paid $4 for diesel last night.
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