To me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
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I like both but for different reasons. Wish the 4R got updated. It's pretty archaic at this point with the 5AT and low tech engine. That has some charm and appeal though.
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Yep. All this.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pmTo me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
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There are 0 logical non-consumeristic reasons to purchase it. I am not going to argue for this one bit. I can buy a 6-7k 4 runner and do the exact same shit. This is a WANT purchase.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pmTo me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
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Totally valid negatives.
It has its positives though. Cheaper, same resale maybe even better, same capability (lesbihonest I'm not going to max out the capability of either one), better rear seat / rear hatch, roll down rear window, no solid front axle and therefore better road manners, not 1st year FCA.
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Well there you go. Logical Max vs. Waxer Max.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:43 pmThere are 0 logical non-consumeristic reasons to purchase it. I am not going to argue for this one bit. I can buy a 6-7k 4 runner and do the exact same shit. This is a WANT purchase.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pm
To me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
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Bruh nobody with a respectable job wants to roll around in a poverty 20 year old used Toyboata with a cracked dashboard and 180k miles.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:43 pmThere are 0 logical non-consumeristic reasons to purchase it. I am not going to argue for this one bit. I can buy a 6-7k 4 runner and do the exact same shit. This is a WANT purchase.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pm
To me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
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I believe you immortalized this in a quote that Johnny is sporting.
That is the epic and never-ending struggle.
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Right, but everyone is head over heels in debt and running paycheck to paycheck on 84 month stretchpay. I don't operate as such. I could get this thing for cash if needed be... but I am trying to be smart with the money.
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This is how I justified my I could have leased something for WAY cheaper, but we utilize it for fun enough to make it worth paying more for.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pmTo me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Your lease costs are next to nothing. $350 a month is a cost of a camry for most ppl. You're rolling in a subsided thanks to job perk.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:50 pmThis is how I justified my I could have leased something for WAY cheaper, but we utilize it for fun enough to make it worth paying more for.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pm
To me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.
It would be $550-600 a month for a truck like yours for me.
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It's 75% more than my Silverado was. That would have been a better "financial decision", but nowhere near as fun.
You could probably lease a ZR2 like mine for $400/mo if you shopped a bit.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Could you comfortably get it with cash? If so... then I don't see how this is irresponsible.
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Do you even opportunity cost?
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Yea I’m enjoying this DfD Jeep excursion![user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:29 pm JL is
Watching Demuro's video makes me want one moar.
I want Jeep to launch the configurator so I can continue to froth at the mouth.
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Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:18 pmDesertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:17 pm
Because 40 days after he buys it he'll want a performance car. Also this is money he could be hoarding to launch a startup and be somebody in the Pay Area, maybe even get himself a white girl that wasn't born in Vladivostok.
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Hmm I really don’t think so. Colorado’s are really rare ... especially zr2s. ... easily 500..
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Counsellor u just won your case!! If only most people observed that logic. Jeeps n big trucks generally don’t get used at all for their capability. It’s just something they want but in essence don’t need or use as they could. I encourage Max to test and take a long swig of good Vodka then objectively asses if he has a life that needs a Jeep or the option you listed above........Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pmTo me the decision partly lies on your willingness to let this vehicle expand your recreational horizons. If you would visit the Sierras, etc. more in summer and winter (and you have time for that) then that's kind of a life expanding decision, and you have shown an absolute willingness to blow cash on travel, which is the same kind of thing. On the other hand, if you really see your next couple of years as being pretty damn busy on the weekends where your recreation consists of Fernet Fridays and a little AZN/Barnaul banging, you can just strip some poor schmuck of his leased Bimmer at a discount and drive to that. In other words, it's stupid to pay big money for a jeep when you will, in essence, only be taking it to the mall.