List of under-tired "performance/sports" cars :triggered:
- max225
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If sporty driving is your thing bear in mind the OEM purposefully FUCKED you with these cars to upsell you to the next level up. JohnnyP gave me the inspiration for this thread.
First and foremost I nominate my own
BMW 335i M sport 225 front 255 rear
BMW 235i M sport 225 front 245 rear (dafuq) even worse than mine
BMW 135is 215 front 245 rear
BMW M3 (E46) 225 front 255 rear
BMW Z4 35is 225 front 245 rear
Audi S4 245s all around (same as a 500lb lighter golf R)
Audi S3 225s all around
Lexus RC350 F sport 235 up front
Lexus IS350 F sport 225 up front
Mercedes C43 amg 225 front 245 rear
Dodge Charger/Challenger R/T 245 all around
Chrysler 300S V8 245 all around
Ford Mustang GT base 235s all around
Alfa Giulia Quadrafuglio 245s front and 285 rear
Chevy SS 245s up front and 275 rear
https://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/20 ... money.html
This article perfectly onlines how much decent tires are WORTH... around turns.
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- goIftdibrad
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My Z4 has PLENTY of tire.
I think you have a driving problem.
I think you have a driving problem.
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- max225
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same tire size a golf in a 3550lb convertible ?Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:13 pm My Z4 has PLENTY of tire.
I think you have a driving problem.
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225s all round here
- goIftdibrad
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you are grossly oversimplifying the tire discussion. Section width is not everything. hell, some sectionwidts very wildly from what is on the sidewall.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:26 pmsame tire size a golf in a 3550lb convertible ?Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:13 pm My Z4 has PLENTY of tire.
I think you have a driving problem.
brain go brrrrrr
- troyguitar
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100 front and 120mm rear on the ninja.
- Desertbreh
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I am amused that you will not let this go. Maybe I should try a 325 square setup on the GS?maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:09 pm
If sporty driving is your thing bear in mind the OEM purposefully FUCKED you with these cars to upsell you to the next level up. JohnnyP gave me the inspiration for this thread.
First and foremost I nominate my own
BMW 335i M sport 225 front 255 rear
BMW 235i M sport 225 front 245 rear (dafuq) even worse than mine
BMW 135is 215 front 245 rear
BMW M3 (E46) 225 front 255 rear
BMW Z4 35is 225 front 245 rear
Audi S4 245s all around (same as a 500lb lighter golf R)
Audi S3 225s all around
Lexus RC350 F sport 235 up front
Lexus IS350 F sport 225 up front
Mercedes C43 amg 225 front 245 rear
Dodge Charger/Challenger R/T 245 all around
Chrysler 300S V8 245 all around
Ford Mustang GT base 235s all around
Alfa Giulia Quadrafuglio 245s front and 285 rear
Chevy SS 245s up front and 275 rear
https://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/20 ... money.html
This article perfectly onlines how much decent tires are WORTH... around turns.
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Let me know if I missed any
- goIftdibrad
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this thread sucks.
buy a fucking set of wheels and tires with better tires if you want more grip.my superpreium german camary only pulls 0.92g but there is room for 25mm bigger tires to fit so i COULD BE pulling 0.97g
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do you even indict an entire industry? All cars should run 305 square.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:08 pm this thread sucks.
buy a fucking set of wheels and tires with better tires if you want more grip.my superpreium german camary only pulls 0.92g but there is room for 25mm bigger tires to fit so i COULD BE pulling 0.97g
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CLA45 AMG has 235's front and back and weighs 3600 lbs, it's surprising that it can even go around a turn without blowing up.
I should probably mention that they're different sized 235's on the front vs the back, but that seems counter productive to the thread.
I should probably mention that they're different sized 235's on the front vs the back, but that seems counter productive to the thread.
dyslexic wrote:DO YOU FEEL FEAR
- max225
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I'll add it to the list. 18s front 19s backSixSpeeder wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:19 pm CLA45 AMG has 235's front and back and weighs 3600 lbs, it's surprising that it can even go around a turn without blowing up.
I should probably mention that they're different sized 235's on the front vs the back, but that seems counter productive to the thread.
- max225
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Feel free to add to it. Most of the models I listed have higher performing models that actually have the tire sizes that make sense.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:34 pmyou are grossly oversimplifying the tire discussion. Section width is not everything. hell, some sectionwidts very wildly from what is on the sidewall.
I am thinking of it from the perspective of having had 225s in the front of my TDI and any heavier/better performing car should have proportionally wider/better tires.
- SixSpeeder
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There are disadvantages to wider tires, hydroplaning at lower speeds, gas mileage, and weight are some.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:33 pmFeel free to add to it. Most of the models I listed have higher performing models that actually have the tire sizes that make sense.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:34 pm
you are grossly oversimplifying the tire discussion. Section width is not everything. hell, some sectionwidts very wildly from what is on the sidewall.
I am thinking of it from the perspective of having had 225s in the front of my TDI and any heavier/better performing car should have proportionally wider/better tires.
dyslexic wrote:DO YOU FEEL FEAR
- max225
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Valid points, however handling prowess should be a priority in sports sedans, adding 1-3lbs per tire to gain .1gs seems like an acceptable compromise.SixSpeeder wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:38 pmThere are disadvantages to wider tires, hydroplaning at lower speeds, gas mileage, and weight are some.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:33 pm
Feel free to add to it. Most of the models I listed have higher performing models that actually have the tire sizes that make sense.
I am thinking of it from the perspective of having had 225s in the front of my TDI and any heavier/better performing car should have proportionally wider/better tires.
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I'm sure the high point of every BMW driver is finding out how many G's it pulls.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:41 pmValid points, however handling prowess should be a priority in sports sedans, adding 1-3lbs per tire to gain .1gs seems like an acceptable compromise.SixSpeeder wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:38 pm
There are disadvantages to wider tires, hydroplaning at lower speeds, gas mileage, and weight are some.