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https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2098178

I've always been intrigued by MINI Paceman. This thing is overvalued by...$5k-$8k? probably?

Had a :fullretard: thought that I could trade the Cucktrek for something from Carvana as a fun/second vehicle so it won't matter when the 4R comes in. But this is the most interesting and would destroy my Cucktrek profit in a year.

I think this is how Carvana is successful right now. There's no new cars to buy, so people end up trading in their current for something else at Carvana. The insane trade valuation then just supports the insane "new" car price. So it's all a wash for them at the end, only the customer gets screwed.
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Tarspin wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:29 pm

I didn't have the exact deets on why they are limited in numbers, sounds like Chris has the right info.
Well it started with the mk iv VW tried to make it into a halo car i think it was still before they had the other opportunities to upsell people with other brands as they weren’t fully in their portfolio.

I think they actually went through considerable effort to make it into awd etc it was the most special R model IMO, and it has been diluted down every generation since.
Mk 4 unique BODY and Engine and drive system + brakes + unique interior + limited production/colors
Mk 5 unique drive system + major engine +modifications + brakes + rear mounted battery ! + limited production + colors
Mk 6 unique drive system + body kit + brakes + colors
Mk 7 unique drive system + engine modification. + colors
Mk 8 unique drive system + engine modification + colors

Every subsequent generation since the 4 narrowed the gap to the gti.
What was unique about the Mk4 R(32) body vs the regular Mk4 GTI body, other than some aero shit?
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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Detroit wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:24 pm https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2098178

I've always been intrigued by MINI Paceman. This thing is overvalued by...$5k-$8k? probably?

Had a :fullretard: thought that I could trade the Cucktrek for something from Carvana as a fun/second vehicle so it won't matter when the 4R comes in. But this is the most interesting and would destroy my Cucktrek profit in a year.

I think this is how Carvana is successful right now. There's no new cars to buy, so people end up trading in their current for something else at Carvana. The insane trade valuation then just supports the insane "new" car price. So it's all a wash for them at the end, only the customer gets screwed.
This one has the “bad engine”.

Having lived the mini life you have to accept depreciation as a wayoflife. These things are dropping into oblivion fast. Also I am suspecting bmw is going to fiat the brand here in the us. They just closed 2 big mini stores around me. Only 2 left … which is kinda sad… I suspect this will be a bigger issue going forward
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Sometimes I wonder if I should have bought a mini years ago. Came close a few times.

The unreliability is a reputation they earned over 2-3 generations and they have not been able to shake.
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wap wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:25 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:41 pm

Well it started with the mk iv VW tried to make it into a halo car i think it was still before they had the other opportunities to upsell people with other brands as they weren’t fully in their portfolio.

I think they actually went through considerable effort to make it into awd etc it was the most special R model IMO, and it has been diluted down every generation since.
Mk 4 unique BODY and Engine and drive system + brakes + unique interior + limited production/colors
Mk 5 unique drive system + major engine +modifications + brakes + rear mounted battery ! + limited production + colors
Mk 6 unique drive system + body kit + brakes + colors
Mk 7 unique drive system + engine modification. + colors
Mk 8 unique drive system + engine modification + colors

Every subsequent generation since the 4 narrowed the gap to the gti.
What was unique about the Mk4 R(32) body vs the regular Mk4 GTI body, other than some aero shit?
It had wider fenders IIRC and different front/rear bumpers
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Those peeler ramz on that R are pretty hawt. A timeless VeeDub/Audi design.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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max225 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:27 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:24 pm https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2098178

I've always been intrigued by MINI Paceman. This thing is overvalued by...$5k-$8k? probably?

Had a :fullretard: thought that I could trade the Cucktrek for something from Carvana as a fun/second vehicle so it won't matter when the 4R comes in. But this is the most interesting and would destroy my Cucktrek profit in a year.

I think this is how Carvana is successful right now. There's no new cars to buy, so people end up trading in their current for something else at Carvana. The insane trade valuation then just supports the insane "new" car price. So it's all a wash for them at the end, only the customer gets screwed.
This one has the “bad engine”.

Having lived the mini life you have to accept depreciation as a wayoflife. These things are dropping into oblivion fast. Also I am suspecting bmw is going to fiat the brand here in the us. They just closed 2 big mini stores around me. Only 2 left … which is kinda sad… I suspect this will be a bigger issue going forward
Yea, which is why I'm not particularly excited about buying a MINI right now. Not only do they depreciate like rocks, but the current price inflation makes it even worse. I was hoping for maybe a decent deal, but that just doesn't seem to be possible on anything other than new right now.
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max225 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:57 pm
wap wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:25 pm

What was unique about the Mk4 R(32) body vs the regular Mk4 GTI body, other than some aero shit?
It had wider fenders IIRC and different front/rear bumpers
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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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Desertbreh wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:20 pm Those peeler ramz on that R are pretty hawt. A timeless VeeDub/Audi design.
I had them on my MK6, the PO swapped them on. 5/7.

I want this R. It's stupid, but I do. Good thing it'll go for way too much.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:51 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:20 pm Those peeler ramz on that R are pretty hawt. A timeless VeeDub/Audi design.
I had them on my MK6, the PO swapped them on. 5/7.

I want this R. It's stupid, but I do. Good thing it'll go for way too much.
It's a nice looking package for sure.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Ok that thing is pretty effing epic.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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I strongly desire to be ensconced in one of those rear captain chairs with a cold beer popped and inserted in that retrolicious center table.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:46 pm I strongly desire to be ensconced in one of those rear captain chairs with a cold beer popped and inserted in that retrolicious center table.
In many ways, I do too. It's not in the cards doe, so someone else's dream will come true.
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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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wap wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:08 pm
:neat: but :nope:
I know the seller. He has an RS6 tribute edition and an RS2
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Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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razr390 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:21 pm
wap wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:08 pm

:neat: but :nope:
I know the seller. He has an RS6 tribute edition and an RS2
Pics of RS2?
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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wap wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:46 pm
razr390 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:21 pm

I know the seller. He has an RS6 tribute edition and an RS2
Pics of RS2?

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:doughnut: :narc: :doughnut:
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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razr390 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:20 pm
wap wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:46 pm

Pics of RS2?

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Bloo :wub:
More!
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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https://carsandbids.com/auctions/r4bqbd ... gen-golf-r

Sold for under $20k. Kinda cheap compared to what the market's doing? :mindblown:
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wap wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:29 pm
razr390 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:20 pm


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So much badass. Love those things.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:49 pm https://carsandbids.com/auctions/r4bqbd ... gen-golf-r

Sold for under $20k. Kinda cheap compared to what the market's doing? :mindblown:
Yea I dunno… still seems about 5-9k too high to me for what it is.
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