:plac: Finds: Show us your automotive goldmines

[Johnny_P]

A 4-door Mini Cooper S, with ass warmers, sport package, roof rails, and an automatic is $32 grand.

That seems like a lot. My car was only $2500-ish more.

New cars are expensive doe.

The four door Mini seems really neat, but it is a hard sell for the price when GTI, WRX, FOST, are all less.

Right, that's a damn tough pill to swallow.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

He wants to buy something to teach stick to others?

A proper teacher can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch or vehicle.

Naw, my GF stalled the fuck out of my WRX multiple times and gave up since 10% throttle equalled full boost in that car, plus the revs kept climbing even with the lightest of touch on the accelerator. She didn't stall my Abarth a single time. The Camaro would have been easy to teach her on also since it has properly progressive accelerator pedal tuning on it.

You only bolded part, can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch. She didn't hurt the car by stalling it a bunch, but she certainly didn't "learn". I agree that some cars are much harder to learn on than others, but you can't break them by the learning process.

[Johnny_P]

Naw, my GF stalled the fuck out of my WRX multiple times and gave up since 10% throttle equalled full boost in that car, plus the revs kept climbing even with the lightest of touch on the accelerator. She didn't stall my Abarth a single time. The Camaro would have been easy to teach her on also since it has properly progressive accelerator pedal tuning on it.

You only bolded part, can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch. She didn't hurt the car by stalling it a bunch, but she certainly didn't "learn". I agree that some cars are much harder to learn on than others, but you can't break them by the learning process.

With a good instructor you can learn decently quickly and you're not going to damage much by stalling.

[SixSpeeder]

Naw, my GF stalled the fuck out of my WRX multiple times and gave up since 10% throttle equalled full boost in that car, plus the revs kept climbing even with the lightest of touch on the accelerator. She didn't stall my Abarth a single time. The Camaro would have been easy to teach her on also since it has properly progressive accelerator pedal tuning on it.

You only bolded part, can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch. She didn't hurt the car by stalling it a bunch, but she certainly didn't "learn". I agree that some cars are much harder to learn on than others, but you can't break them by the learning process.

If she had bought that car (if I had bought that car as my first manual car), the clutch wouldn't last long great teacher or not.

[SixSpeeder]

You only bolded part, can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch. She didn't hurt the car by stalling it a bunch, but she certainly didn't "learn". I agree that some cars are much harder to learn on than others, but you can't break them by the learning process.

With a good instructor you can learn decently quickly and you're not going to damage much by stalling.

Gotta get it moving eventually.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

You only bolded part, can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch. She didn't hurt the car by stalling it a bunch, but she certainly didn't "learn". I agree that some cars are much harder to learn on than others, but you can't break them by the learning process.

If she had bought that car (if I had bought that car as my first manual car), the clutch wouldn't last long great teacher or not.

Why? Did you have to ride the clutch to get it to engage?

[Johnny_P]

You only bolded part, can teach in any car with zero damage to the clutch. She didn't hurt the car by stalling it a bunch, but she certainly didn't "learn". I agree that some cars are much harder to learn on than others, but you can't break them by the learning process.

If she had bought that car (if I had bought that car as my first manual car), the clutch wouldn't last long great teacher or not.

The Subaru dealer told me they get WRXs in all the time, most still pretty new, for new clutches.

[Johnny_P]

If she had bought that car (if I had bought that car as my first manual car), the clutch wouldn't last long great teacher or not.

Why? Did you have to ride the clutch to get it to engage?

Throttle is ludicrously sensitive in the WRX. Unnecessarily so. Its REALLY tricky to start smoothly in that car.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

When my dad taught me how to he would yell "FOOT OFF THE CLUTCH" all the time to get me in the habit of being on the clutch as little as possible. That's how you minimize wear.

Slowly let out clutch until car starts moving
Hold the clutch in that spot
Once moving, FOOT OFF THE CLUTCH

I hear this in my head still when driving.

[SixSpeeder]

If she had bought that car (if I had bought that car as my first manual car), the clutch wouldn't last long great teacher or not.

Why? Did you have to ride the clutch to get it to engage?

The revs don't hold steady even if you're barely touching the accelerator, that made it hard to take off in 1st smoothly without over-revving even for a very experienced manual driver .

[SixSpeeder]

Why? Did you have to ride the clutch to get it to engage?

Throttle is ludicrously sensitive in the WRX. Unnecessarily so. Its REALLY tricky to start smoothly in that car.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Why? Did you have to ride the clutch to get it to engage?

The revs don't hold steady even if you're barely touching the accelerator, that made it hard to take off in 1st smoothly without over-revving even for a very experienced manual driver .

Oh, interesting. Seems like something one could get used to doe?

[Johnny_P]

The revs don't hold steady even if you're barely touching the accelerator, that made it hard to take off in 1st smoothly without over-revving even for a very experienced manual driver .

Oh, interesting. Seems like something one could get used to doe?

Mostly. Took a while for me though, and the STI isn't as bad as the WRX is.

[Johnny_P]

Throttle is ludicrously sensitive in the WRX. Unnecessarily so. Its REALLY tricky to start smoothly in that car.

My WRX test drive was a bunch of bucking insanity with every shift. The STI was so much smoother.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Wow, crazy.

Needs moar displacement I think.

[SixSpeeder]

The revs don't hold steady even if you're barely touching the accelerator, that made it hard to take off in 1st smoothly without over-revving even for a very experienced manual driver .

Oh, interesting. Seems like something one could get used to doe?

Not really. I could drive the car smoothly of course, but it was always a glaring fault. It had a great engine, a great transmission, excellent unflappable handling, and I've got nothing bad to say about the clutch, but the accelerator tuning was just awful for drivability, like a 17 year old turned it up to 11 becauseracekar.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Oh, interesting. Seems like something one could get used to doe?

Not really. I could drive the car smoothly of course, but it was always a glaring fault. It had a great engine, a great transmission, excellent unflappable handling, and I've got nothing bad to say about the clutch, but the accelerator tuning was just awful for drivability, like a 17 year old turned it up to 11 becauseracekar.

That's inexcusable. It's fucking software, there's no reason for that. Were there modes that would change it?

[SixSpeeder]

My WRX test drive was a bunch of bucking insanity with every shift. The STI was so much smoother.

Yep.

[SixSpeeder]

Not really. I could drive the car smoothly of course, but it was always a glaring fault. It had a great engine, a great transmission, excellent unflappable handling, and I've got nothing bad to say about the clutch, but the accelerator tuning was just awful for drivability, like a 17 year old turned it up to 11 becauseracekar.

That's inexcusable. It's fucking software, there's no reason for that. Were there modes that would change it?

No, one mode.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

That's inexcusable. It's fucking software, there's no reason for that. Were there modes that would change it?

No, one mode.

That's

[Johnny_P]

No, one mode.

That's

STI gets the 3-mode throttle. It goes from fast to faster to batshit. It's manageable at the slowest throttle setting, where the middle is fun on a back road. The fastest setting is and uncontrollable.

[goIftdibrad]

When my dad taught me how to he would yell "FOOT OFF THE CLUTCH" all the time to get me in the habit of being on the clutch as little as possible. That's how you minimize wear.

Slowly let out clutch until car starts moving
Hold the clutch in that spot
Once moving, FOOT OFF THE CLUTCH

I hear this in my head still when driving.

[dtraill27]

The 11 WRX I had I had no issues requiring clutch riding. Needed more revs than I was used to before getting it moving but thats it. I was the 2nd owner and when I traded it in with 62k on the clock the stock clutch was fine

[Johnny_P]

When my dad taught me how to he would yell "FOOT OFF THE CLUTCH" all the time to get me in the habit of being on the clutch as little as possible. That's how you minimize wear.

Slowly let out clutch until car starts moving
Hold the clutch in that spot
Once moving, FOOT OFF THE CLUTCH

I hear this in my head still when driving.

[SixSpeeder]

The 11 WRX I had I had no issues requiring clutch riding. Needed more revs than I was used to before getting it moving but thats it. I was the 2nd owner and when I traded it in with 62k on the clock the stock clutch was fine

We're talking about the 2015+ WRX