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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:33 pm How much is a 4C anyway? If there's a ton of money on the hood, that could be a really cool car to buy. I'd probably miss :manuel: :doe: .
$50k ish. I would LOVE to own one. Actually I'd probably hate it. Kit car build quality, no sound deadening, basically the Lotus Elise with a tad more comfort but not much and I hated that car.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:10 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:33 pm How much is a 4C anyway? If there's a ton of money on the hood, that could be a really cool car to buy. I'd probably miss :manuel: :doe: .
$50k ish. I would LOVE to own one. Actually I'd probably hate it. Kit car build quality, no sound deadening, basically the Lotus Elise with a tad more comfort but not much and I hated that car.
I think they are a lot more than that actually... 68-90k depending on if you want a convertible or not. Which is exactly why they are not selling and will be extremely rare.

http://www.alfaromeostevenscreek.com/ne ... 27ee96.htm

Oh wow, 5k on the hood.
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max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:23 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:10 pm

$50k ish. I would LOVE to own one. Actually I'd probably hate it. Kit car build quality, no sound deadening, basically the Lotus Elise with a tad more comfort but not much and I hated that car.
I think they are a lot more than that actually... 68-90k depending on if you want a convertible or not. Which is exactly why they are not selling and will be extremely rare.

http://www.alfaromeostevenscreek.com/ne ... 27ee96.htm

Oh wow, 5k on the hood.
According to Wiki, Lancia only produced 492 Stratos. And none came to the US.

That's the definition of rare.

The 4C will probably push 10k units globally during its life cycle. Not that rare by comparison. Even in the US, it'll probably be 40 years before it's really "collectible", and human driving will probably be banned by then.
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max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:23 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:10 pm

$50k ish. I would LOVE to own one. Actually I'd probably hate it. Kit car build quality, no sound deadening, basically the Lotus Elise with a tad more comfort but not much and I hated that car.
I think they are a lot more than that actually... 68-90k depending on if you want a convertible or not. Which is exactly why they are not selling and will be extremely rare.

http://www.alfaromeostevenscreek.com/ne ... 27ee96.htm

Oh wow, 5k on the hood.
Oh, for some reason I was thinking they were in the 40s, then was thinking if there was a lot of money on the hood, I could actually, maybe afford one in the high 30s... :nope:

It's a really neat car, but I'd have a hard time choosing it over a C7 or a Cayman if :waxer:
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Detroit wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:28 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:23 pm

I think they are a lot more than that actually... 68-90k depending on if you want a convertible or not. Which is exactly why they are not selling and will be extremely rare.

http://www.alfaromeostevenscreek.com/ne ... 27ee96.htm

Oh wow, 5k on the hood.
According to Wiki, Lancia only produced 492 Stratos. And none came to the US.

That's the definition of rare.

The 4C will probably push 10k units globally during its life cycle. Not that rare by comparison. Even in the US, it'll probably be 40 years before it's really "collectible", and human driving will probably be banned by then.
Yea Lancia is def rarer. I was just trying to point out a somewhat similar concept on sale today... for not outrageous money.
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Ive seen used 4C coupe's with a few miles for 48-49. Again those are asking prices. Im thinking serious offers are considered of course. The new and WOW factor is gone. Rare yes but there are better track toys and the dealer support is iffy in the US.

2015's---

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/ 46,888k$
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/ 49K w/2kmiles

Loaded launch edition fewer miles and its lower priced - https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/ 46,800K$
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:30 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:23 pm

I think they are a lot more than that actually... 68-90k depending on if you want a convertible or not. Which is exactly why they are not selling and will be extremely rare.

http://www.alfaromeostevenscreek.com/ne ... 27ee96.htm

Oh wow, 5k on the hood.
Oh, for some reason I was thinking they were in the 40s, then was thinking if there was a lot of money on the hood, I could actually, maybe afford one in the high 30s... :nope:

It's a really neat car, but I'd have a hard time choosing it over a C7 or a Cayman if :waxer:
Gayman is an obvious competitor but the Alfa has so much more soul, even though the gayman is better in every way other than weight and rarity, which are not minor things to avoid.
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The Alpha looks way cooler than a Cayman (or a C7) as well. And you roll around looking like a true baller because no one knows what it is...
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15 Launch model - been off an on Cars.com for months - 47k$

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:35 pm The Alpha looks way cooler than a Cayman (or a C7) as well. And you roll around looking like a true baller because no one knows what it is...
Yea, but the misery of driving it in most situations would outweigh the fun. Unless you live on a race track or the top of a mountain with an epic road, it makes very little sense. "Soul" is annoying when you sitting in traffic or driving through craters. That's probably why the sales are what they are.
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max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:33 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:30 pm

Oh, for some reason I was thinking they were in the 40s, then was thinking if there was a lot of money on the hood, I could actually, maybe afford one in the high 30s... :nope:

It's a really neat car, but I'd have a hard time choosing it over a C7 or a Cayman if :waxer:
Gayman is an obvious competitor but the Alfa has so much more soul, even though the gayman is better in every way other than weight and rarity, which are not minor things to avoid.
Cayman S has surprisingly strong resale. I love the 4C and my test was simply killer. Id go all day Cayman S though. They got that car right.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:30 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:23 pm

I think they are a lot more than that actually... 68-90k depending on if you want a convertible or not. Which is exactly why they are not selling and will be extremely rare.

http://www.alfaromeostevenscreek.com/ne ... 27ee96.htm

Oh wow, 5k on the hood.
Oh, for some reason I was thinking they were in the 40s, then was thinking if there was a lot of money on the hood, I could actually, maybe afford one in the high 30s... :nope:

It's a really neat car, but I'd have a hard time choosing it over a C7 or a Cayman if :waxer:
Uphill battle to convince yourself that the 4C is better than a Cayman or C7.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:38 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:30 pm

Oh, for some reason I was thinking they were in the 40s, then was thinking if there was a lot of money on the hood, I could actually, maybe afford one in the high 30s... :nope:

It's a really neat car, but I'd have a hard time choosing it over a C7 or a Cayman if :waxer:
Uphill battle to convince yourself that the 4C is better than a Cayman or C7.
Because it's not.

Cayman vs C7 would be the tough one, IMO.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:37 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:35 pm The Alpha looks way cooler than a Cayman (or a C7) as well. And you roll around looking like a true baller because no one knows what it is...
Yea, but the misery of driving it in most situations would outweigh the fun. Unless you live on a race track or the top of a mountain with an epic road, it makes very little sense. "Soul" is annoying when you sitting in traffic or driving through craters. That's probably why the sales are what they are.
Yeah. And the C7 and Cayman and all are so usable now that you really need to WANT the 4C HARD. It's a one trick pony which would make it a great 5th car.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:39 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:38 pm

Uphill battle to convince yourself that the 4C is better than a Cayman or C7.
Because it's not.

Cayman vs C7 would be the tough one, IMO.
If you're only after a raw, connected, sexy looking exotic type car... I can see the argument for one.
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:iono: I'd feel pretty damn cool sitting in traffic in that whereas in a Cayman I'd just feel like a douche.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:40 pm :iono: I'd feel pretty damn cool sitting in traffic in that whereas in a Cayman I'd just feel like a douche.
Most MURICAN opioid addicted trash will label you douche in either case. Dont sweat it.....
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Davestr wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:43 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:40 pm :iono: I'd feel pretty damn cool sitting in traffic in that whereas in a Cayman I'd just feel like a douche.
Most MURICAN opioid addicted trash will label you douche in either case. Dont sweat it.....
I don't really care... but driving something truly exclusive like that that makes everyone's head turn would be pretty cool. Porsches all kind of look the same to the untrained eye and are a dime a dozen.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:39 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:38 pm

Uphill battle to convince yourself that the 4C is better than a Cayman or C7.
Because it's not.

Cayman vs C7 would be the tough one, IMO.
Cayman is wayyyy slower than a C7. However much nicer put together and not made out of recycled trash.

C7 is also MUCH cheaper than a gayman S... which kind of comes close to the performance.

I guess it is a choice between on ramps or corners.... Not sure which way i'd go.
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Davestr wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:43 pm My kinda Cayman - https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/
Epic spec Dave. What a find! Time for an upgrade from the M2 ?! :like:
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max225 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:47 pm
Davestr wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:43 pm My kinda Cayman - https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/
Epic spec Dave. What a find! Time for an upgrade from the M2 ?! :like:
I am being a good little M2 douche until spring lol :)
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:45 pm
Davestr wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:43 pm

Most MURICAN opioid addicted trash will label you douche in either case. Dont sweat it.....
I don't really care... but driving something truly exclusive like that that makes everyone's head turn would be pretty cool. Porsches all kind of look the same to the untrained eye and are a dime a dozen.
I see maybe one Porsche a month excluding early Cayennes.

That being said, I think a 4C would be an epic autox car and kind of want one. There's not much out there that will be better to autox than my MR2. The list is largely just 4C, Elise, and highly modded tiny cars. 4C/Elise would otherwise be mostly terrible to drive on public roads, I'd only take it to autox and back. Maybe a Cars&Coffee once a year if I'm bored. Cayman would be a great DD but worse for autox, I'd probably keep the MR2 if I got a Cayman.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:40 am Holy fuck.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-lancia-stratos/
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Awesome car.
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