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Detroit wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:45 pm 18's should be the maximum. 17's are ideal, IMO.
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Max I was wrong. I should have remembered this - the M3/M4 come with 18's standard. The 19in model 437s are an option. See this--

https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/build/color/df6y83tp
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Davestr wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:16 pm Max I was wrong. I should have remembered this - the M3/M4 come with 18's standard. The 19in model 437s are an option. See this--

https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/build/color/df6y83tp
Yeah, I have never seen on 18s, 19s are on most, and now almost every single one has the PP with the dubs.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:38 pm
Detroit wrote:19's are too big on any car.
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2018 STI went to 19s to clear the even larger waxables. :fullretard: I even think the 18s are too big for my car in all reality, 17 is really the sweet spot IMO as long as you get tires with a stiff sidewall so you don't get mushy steering.
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20" wheels + Performance = :wat: :derp: :nope:
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:38 pm
:dat:
2018 STI went to 19s to clear the even larger waxables. :fullretard: I even think the 18s are too big for my car in all reality, 17 is really the sweet spot IMO as long as you get tires with a stiff sidewall so you don't get mushy steering.
SO much :dat:
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:38 pm
:dat:
2018 STI went to 19s to clear the even larger waxables. :fullretard: I even think the 18s are too big for my car in all reality, 17 is really the sweet spot IMO as long as you get tires with a stiff sidewall so you don't get mushy steering.
Thats nuts. The STi does its job well with 18's and the brakes it has. Fk is everyone tracking daily??????
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Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:48 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm

2018 STI went to 19s to clear the even larger waxables. :fullretard: I even think the 18s are too big for my car in all reality, 17 is really the sweet spot IMO as long as you get tires with a stiff sidewall so you don't get mushy steering.
SO much :dat:
I mean tire replacement cost alone would push me to the smaller ones...
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Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm 20" wheels + Performance = :wat: :derp: :nope:
It makes sense on things like a Hellcat or Panamera Turbo S or whatever where you need YUUUGE brakes to slow down a 5000 lb barge from ridiculous speeds.

Even a 3000 lb :poorvette: can benefit (on track only) from going to 18s over 17s for the 14 vs 13 inch rotor's additional heat capacity. I could see the 3500-4000 lb cars, especially the 400+ hp ones, needing 19s and more rotor mass to handle a track day without swapping to track-only brake pads with additional cooling vents.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:20 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm 20" wheels + Performance = :wat: :derp: :nope:
It makes sense on things like a Hellcat or Panamera Turbo S or whatever where you need YUUUGE brakes to slow down a 5000 lb barge from ridiculous speeds.

Even a 3000 lb :poorvette: can benefit (on track only) from going to 18s over 17s for the 14 vs 13 inch rotor's additional heat capacity. I could see the 3500-4000 lb cars, especially the 400+ hp ones, needing 19s and more rotor mass to handle a track day without swapping to track-only brake pads with additional cooling vents.
Very good point. And the only reason big wheels make sense, IMO.
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Most well made 18" wheels will clear the new 6 pot STi brakes, FWIW. The caliper shape is very similar to the OEM 4 pots in previous years and the rotor only increased by roughly 10mm, IIRC. It's like 340mm. I cleared 380mm 6 pot Stoptech brakes with my 18" Volks on my M3 :lolol:

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troyguitar wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:20 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm 20" wheels + Performance = :wat: :derp: :nope:
It makes sense on things like a Hellcat or Panamera Turbo S or whatever where you need YUUUGE brakes to slow down a 5000 lb barge from ridiculous speeds.

Even a 3000 lb :poorvette: can benefit (on track only) from going to 18s over 17s for the 14 vs 13 inch rotor's additional heat capacity. I could see the 3500-4000 lb cars, especially the 400+ hp ones, needing 19s and more rotor mass to handle a track day without swapping to track-only brake pads with additional cooling vents.
My m sport has both vents and 19" wheels such performance very wow
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KiaGiver wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:37 am Most well made 18" wheels will clear the new 6 pot STi brakes, FWIW. The caliper shape is very similar to the OEM 4 pots in previous years and the rotor only increased by roughly 10mm, IIRC. It's like 340mm. I cleared 380mm 6 pot Stoptech brakes with my 18" Volks on my M3 :lolol:

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Davestr wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:08 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:47 pm

2018 STI went to 19s to clear the even larger waxables. :fullretard: I even think the 18s are too big for my car in all reality, 17 is really the sweet spot IMO as long as you get tires with a stiff sidewall so you don't get mushy steering.
Thats nuts. The STi does its job well with 18's and the brakes it has. Fk is everyone tracking daily??????
They want to be like the Civic Type R, gotta beat that nordschleife lap time.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:15 pm
KiaGiver wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:37 am Most well made 18" wheels will clear the new 6 pot STi brakes, FWIW. The caliper shape is very similar to the OEM 4 pots in previous years and the rotor only increased by roughly 10mm, IIRC. It's like 340mm. I cleared 380mm 6 pot Stoptech brakes with my 18" Volks on my M3 :lolol:

M2 with incoming comp pack may get my camel humps moist.
:plac: ?
Dang everyone getting rid of their Subies.
no no haha, I'd keep the STi as a daily.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:24 pm
Davestr wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:08 pm

Thats nuts. The STi does its job well with 18's and the brakes it has. Fk is everyone tracking daily??????
They want to be like the Civic Type R, gotta beat that nordschleife lap time.
I like the Type R and wish it was out last year when I was looking at cars. A white one would be fun. Sounds like a hell of a car, really.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:09 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:24 pm

They want to be like the Civic Type R, gotta beat that nordschleife lap time.
I like the Type R and wish it was out last year when I was looking at cars. A white one would be fun. Sounds like a hell of a car, really.
those wheels and philly roads :lolgasm:
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:24 am
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:09 pm

I like the Type R and wish it was out last year when I was looking at cars. A white one would be fun. Sounds like a hell of a car, really.
those wheels and philly roads :lolgasm:
Yeah. 20" is stupid. The 18's on the prior Civic Si were too much for that chassis too, where the car rode comfortably overall but had oddly high impact harshness. I'd imagine this would be worse overall.

The 18s on my car are alright though. But the car does ride softer with 17s. Just the winter tires I have on those 17s have super soft sidewalls that make the car jiggle a lot.
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max225 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:43 am
troyguitar wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:20 pm

It makes sense on things like a Hellcat or Panamera Turbo S or whatever where you need YUUUGE brakes to slow down a 5000 lb barge from ridiculous speeds.

Even a 3000 lb :poorvette: can benefit (on track only) from going to 18s over 17s for the 14 vs 13 inch rotor's additional heat capacity. I could see the 3500-4000 lb cars, especially the 400+ hp ones, needing 19s and more rotor mass to handle a track day without swapping to track-only brake pads with additional cooling vents.
My m sport has both vents and 19" wheels such performance very wow
Max lease deal - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1395641
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Davestr wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:04 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:43 am
My m sport has both vents and 19" wheels such performance very wow
Max lease deal - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1395641
Notbad but this thing has like no options...
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:32 pm
Davestr wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:04 pm

Max lease deal - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1395641
Notbad but this thing has like no options...
I thought you liked strippers doe? :hue:
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:32 pm
Davestr wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:04 pm

Max lease deal - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1395641
Notbad but this thing has like no options...
Has that ///M peen extender option doe :hubba:
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:32 pm
Davestr wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:04 pm

Max lease deal - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1395641
Notbad but this thing has like no options...
Decent car options or not mang!
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