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I don't even visit autoblog anymore.[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:49 amI scan it for photos and car news since all the car news sites went down the drain and TCL is more reliable thanks to a few choice posters posting up release info in one place.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:42 am I never was a TCL guy.
VWvortex has really gone to the shitter. Used to be good info, organised threads, etc but the people that run it dont know how to make a fucking backup and people got tired of posting the same shit
But yeah, Vortex is anyway. Load times have gotten really bad lately too.
TTAC is alright. They're becoming more and more like Jalopnik though.
Jalopnik I think is getting a bit better. Tavarish doesn't post his stupid banter anymore about how a 20 year old used BMW is a better buy than a new Accord, or how engine-out maintenance and full interior swaps are an easy weekend project for anyone with a screwdriver. So that's progress.
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Don't forget the AOS and downpipe.Johnny_P wrote:Boner is growing for a dyno tune again...
Where the F are my fog lights? I thought I asked Harry to overnight those from Japan?
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I don't think it needs more power. Maybe a more precise fuel regulator and boost control. Punch it at 4k in Sport# and it surges forward then kind of backs off for a second then continues pulling hard. Like its overboosting and has to reign itself back in. Only had that happen a few times overall and don't think it's a huge deal. Idle control is also not totally ideal, it'll dip to like 700 RPM before it catches itself, surge to 1k, then ease back down to 700-800. Just feels like a cheaper control scheme.
Nah the reason I'd get a tune is to tame the throttle. It's unnecessarily touchy at initial tip in. Once moving along it's totally fine though. If you're doing a dyno tune though, you may as well go Stage 2 IMO with the exhaust system.
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Need? No. But the chassis definitely feels like it'd be perfectly happy with another 50hp. Plus, I really just wanted to make a Tim Taylor reference.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:42 pm I don't think it needs more power. Maybe a more precise fuel regulator and boost control. Punch it at 4k in Sport# and it surges forward then kind of backs off for a second then continues pulling hard. Like its overboosting and has to reign itself back in. Only had that happen a few times overall and don't think it's a huge deal. Idle control is also not totally ideal, it'll dip to like 700 RPM before it catches itself, surge to 1k, then ease back down to 700-800. Just feels like a cheaper control scheme.
Nah the reason I'd get a tune is to tame the throttle. It's unnecessarily touchy at initial tip in. Once moving along it's totally fine though. If you're doing a dyno tune though, you may as well go Stage 2 IMO with the exhaust system.
Agree with everything you said, the factory tune is far from perfect, but not because it's too slow. You'll probably want a EBCS and the Cobb fuel pressure regulator kit since those supposedly help make things run a bit more smoothly if you do decide to tune the thing.
, be the guinea pig.
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Yeah most dyno tuning places require you have a Cobb accessport and some kind of upgraded and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. IDK about the boost control solenoid. All in to go stage 2 would be over $2k though. That's a lot of to adjust gas pedal sensitivity, and is 100% money thrown out the window. It'll also reduce resale value because clearly the owner was a vaping flatbrimmer.coogles wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:47 pmNeed? No. But the chassis definitely feels like it'd be perfectly happy with another 50hp. Plus, I really just wanted to make a Tim Taylor reference.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:42 pm I don't think it needs more power. Maybe a more precise fuel regulator and boost control. Punch it at 4k in Sport# and it surges forward then kind of backs off for a second then continues pulling hard. Like its overboosting and has to reign itself back in. Only had that happen a few times overall and don't think it's a huge deal. Idle control is also not totally ideal, it'll dip to like 700 RPM before it catches itself, surge to 1k, then ease back down to 700-800. Just feels like a cheaper control scheme.
Nah the reason I'd get a tune is to tame the throttle. It's unnecessarily touchy at initial tip in. Once moving along it's totally fine though. If you're doing a dyno tune though, you may as well go Stage 2 IMO with the exhaust system.
Agree with everything you said, the factory tune is far from perfect, but not because it's too slow. You'll probably want a EBCS and the Cobb fuel pressure regulator kit since those supposedly help make things run a bit more smoothly if you do decide to tune the thing.
, be the guinea pig.
Eh. The other thought is deal with this until I'm tired of the throttle and all, and go the S5/335i or whatever automatic sledgehammer route. Probably tune it. Enjoy driving a quiet comfy cruise missile through South Philly povertyland.
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Yeah dude, it starts to add up fast.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:56 pm Yeah most dyno tuning places require you have a Cobb accessport and some kind of upgraded and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. IDK about the boost control solenoid. All in to go stage 2 would be over $2k though. That's a lot of to adjust gas pedal sensitivity, and is 100% money thrown out the window. It'll also reduce resale value because clearly the owner was a vaping flatbrimmer.
Eh. The other thought is deal with this until I'm tired of the throttle and all, and go the S5/335i or whatever automatic sledgehammer route. Probably tune it. Enjoy driving a quiet comfy cruise missile through South Philly povertyland.
AP - $650
FPR - $275
EBCS - $115
Downpipe - $500 (+/-)
Dyno tune - $500 (?)
So yeah, there's a quick 2 grand just for drivability issues? Hardly seems worth that unless you really are after some extra power. I'll probably do it if I decide to buy out the lease in a couple years, but it's staying stock until then. I really don't know that doing just some minor mods like that impacts resale value. From the listings I've seen, it just seems mods don't add a dime in value to the car. If the car is bone stock would have been worth $32k and it's got a full E85 build and all that crap, it's still worth $32k. I think I'd get $2k of enjoyment out of a basic downpipe & tune setup, but not doing that if there's even a remote chance I won't be keeping the car.
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Ahhh for the good old days when all you needed was a $75 tactrix cable, an old laptop, and a buddy who tunes.Johnny_P wrote:Yeah most dyno tuning places require you have a Cobb accessport and some kind of upgraded and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. IDK about the boost control solenoid. All in to go stage 2 would be over $2k though. That's a lot of to adjust gas pedal sensitivity, and is 100% money thrown out the window. It'll also reduce resale value because clearly the owner was a vaping flatbrimmer.coogles wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:47 pm Need? No. But the chassis definitely feels like it'd be perfectly happy with another 50hp. Plus, I really just wanted to make a Tim Taylor reference.
Agree with everything you said, the factory tune is far from perfect, but not because it's too slow. You'll probably want a EBCS and the Cobb fuel pressure regulator kit since those supposedly help make things run a bit more smoothly if you do decide to tune the thing.
, be the guinea pig.
Eh. The other thought is deal with this until I'm tired of the throttle and all, and go the S5/335i or whatever automatic sledgehammer route. Probably tune it. Enjoy driving a quiet comfy cruise missile through South Philly povertyland.
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Other option I guess is just just do an off the shelf tune. Cobb, MAPerformance, maybe there are others. Or do an e-tune, that should cost less, I'd think. Probably wouldn't need any hardware changes at all for that, and you shouldn't lose too much on the AP when you decide to sell it.
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I don't have patience for etunes and these motors don't seem to like canned tunes. I'd dyno tune it. Could just skip the stage 2 altogether I guess, but if you decide to add it later you're re-tuning on the dyno. Better to get it all in one shot.coogles wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:21 pm Other option I guess is just just do an off the shelf tune. Cobb, MAPerformance, maybe there are others. Or do an e-tune, that should cost less, I'd think. Probably wouldn't need any hardware changes at all for that, and you shouldn't lose too much on the AP when you decide to sell it.
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I'd gladly pay someone $75 to only adjust the throttle.Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:16 pmAhhh for the good old days when all you needed was a $75 tactrix cable, an old laptop, and a buddy who tunes.Johnny_P wrote:
Yeah most dyno tuning places require you have a Cobb accessport and some kind of upgraded and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. IDK about the boost control solenoid. All in to go stage 2 would be over $2k though. That's a lot of to adjust gas pedal sensitivity, and is 100% money thrown out the window. It'll also reduce resale value because clearly the owner was a vaping flatbrimmer.
Eh. The other thought is deal with this until I'm tired of the throttle and all, and go the S5/335i or whatever automatic sledgehammer route. Probably tune it. Enjoy driving a quiet comfy cruise missile through South Philly povertyland.
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If that were still possible I’d have a guy for you.Johnny_P wrote:I'd gladly pay someone $75 to only adjust the throttle.Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:16 pm Ahhh for the good old days when all you needed was a $75 tactrix cable, an old laptop, and a buddy who tunes.
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