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Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am
by Johnny_P
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:05 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:50 am

Yeah it's interesting because most things I can find online suggest that the shorter travel bikes give you a better platform for hopping and chucking it over things. Whereas the longer travel bikes sit more into their travel, and you have to overcome that to get it over the obstacle. :iono: My test ride years ago with the 5010 didn't lead me to believhttp://www.datforumdoe.com/forum/e that one bit, but then again that bike is known to be super playful. That bike was gloss orange and yellow :wub:
Maybe I've done it wrong :iono:

I've set it up with the correct amount of sag and a hair on the low side with pressures in the fork and shock, but i run the rebound slightly quicker so I can keep it feeling a little more alive.
How much you weigh? Your bike felt smooth and fast. I couldn't gauge the jump ability because I ride Crank Bros pedals. Felt pretty sweet though.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:10 am
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:07 am
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:57 am

Sounds like you need to fly out to Colorado and test ride some bikes.
There's one dealer around here, Community Bikes and Boards. They're closing their philly store though. So it's Haddonfield only. The next closest dealer is in Lancaster. When I called about these, the dude at Community said he could order me one but didn't have any in stock, no demos, no nothing in the area. So fork out basically $4k and "I promise you'll love it." That's the same line :dillerman: were giving regarding WRX's years ago.

I have no idea why the bike industry is like this. Especially at the price points of new bikes anymore.
:iono:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:16 am
by fledonfoot
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:05 am

Maybe I've done it wrong :iono:

I've set it up with the correct amount of sag and a hair on the low side with pressures in the fork and shock, but i run the rebound slightly quicker so I can keep it feeling a little more alive.
How much you weigh? Your bike felt smooth and fast. I couldn't gauge the jump ability because I ride Crank Bros pedals. Felt pretty sweet though.
160

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:19 am
by Johnny_P
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:16 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am

How much you weigh? Your bike felt smooth and fast. I couldn't gauge the jump ability because I ride Crank Bros pedals. Felt pretty sweet though.
160
Yeah same weight. Honestly I wouldn't change anything about how you had your bike set up. Rebound felt right, it wasn't bouncing off line or anything.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:42 am
by fledonfoot
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:19 am
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:16 am

160
Yeah same weight. Honestly I wouldn't change anything about how you had your bike set up. Rebound felt right, it wasn't bouncing off line or anything.
Yeah, I have it pretty well dialed in at this point. I think I want a dropper at some point, and I need to replace at least the front tire with something that has a little more grip on the transition area.

If a deal on a set of XT M8000 brakes shows up I might jump on those and swap the SLX stuff over to wifey's bike.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:48 am
by Apex
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:34 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:19 am

Yeah same weight. Honestly I wouldn't change anything about how you had your bike set up. Rebound felt right, it wasn't bouncing off line or anything.
So buy one. :notsure:

:trollface:
:dat:

But warranty support... :whocares:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:50 am
by fledonfoot
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:36 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:07 am

There's one dealer around here, Community Bikes and Boards. They're closing their philly store though. So it's Haddonfield only. The next closest dealer is in Lancaster. When I called about these, the dude at Community said he could order me one but didn't have any in stock, no demos, no nothing in the area. So fork out basically $4k and "I promise you'll love it." That's the same line :dillerman: were giving regarding WRX's years ago.

I have no idea why the bike industry is like this. Especially at the price points of new bikes anymore.
Let me remind you that you bought a WRX, albeit the more better version... and you like it.

You're gonna love it. :dillerman:
and using :dillerman: logic, the Occam at R&A cycles in NY is the more better version of my Occam...

https://www.racycles.com/mountain/orbea ... bike-11480

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:52 am
by fledonfoot
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:48 am
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:34 am

So buy one. :notsure:

:trollface:
:dat:

But warranty support... :whocares:
There's a dealer within 35 miles of center city Philadelphia.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:01 am
by Apex
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:52 am
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:48 am

:dat:

But warranty support... :whocares:
There's a dealer within 35 miles of center city Philadelphia.
He's ridden, he's liked, they're within :wasteful: budget... He still won't buy.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:43 am
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:36 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:07 am

There's one dealer around here, Community Bikes and Boards. They're closing their philly store though. So it's Haddonfield only. The next closest dealer is in Lancaster. When I called about these, the dude at Community said he could order me one but didn't have any in stock, no demos, no nothing in the area. So fork out basically $4k and "I promise you'll love it." That's the same line :dillerman: were giving regarding WRX's years ago.

I have no idea why the bike industry is like this. Especially at the price points of new bikes anymore.
Let me remind you that you bought a WRX, albeit the more better version... and you like it.

You're gonna love it. :dillerman:
Bought it after test driving two. Despite nobody offering test drives.

:dillerman:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:45 am
by Johnny_P
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:42 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:19 am

Yeah same weight. Honestly I wouldn't change anything about how you had your bike set up. Rebound felt right, it wasn't bouncing off line or anything.
Yeah, I have it pretty well dialed in at this point. I think I want a dropper at some point, and I need to replace at least the front tire with something that has a little more grip on the transition area.

If a deal on a set of XT M8000 brakes shows up I might jump on those and swap the SLX stuff over to wifey's bike.
You on nobby nics or the Maxxis stockers?

Your bike would be awesome with a Purgatory up front. I like my NN, but it's a little shallow for truly hard riding.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:50 am
by Johnny_P
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:01 am
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:52 am

There's a dealer within 35 miles of center city Philadelphia.
He's ridden, he's liked, they're within :wasteful: budget... He still won't buy.
Talked about it with GF last night. Hard decision is hard. It's a great bike for sure. The matte black, decals, etc aren't exactly my personal cup of tea, and that matters. IDK. Part of the stoke of MTB'ing, for me, is looking at your rig and getting excited about it before the ride.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:08 pm
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:50 am
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:01 am

He's ridden, he's liked, they're within :wasteful: budget... He still won't buy.
Talked about it with GF last night. Hard decision is hard. It's a great bike for sure. The matte black, decals, etc aren't exactly my personal cup of tea, and that matters. IDK. Part of the stoke of MTB'ing, for me, is looking at your rig and getting excited about it before the ride.
Too much color is a no-go, not enough color is a no-go. :notsure: what color(s) you'd want...

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:12 pm
by Apex
A bit :disappoint: that I didn't get out and ride this weekend. 4 days with the in-laws had me all :eeyore:

Will have to see about this coming weekend.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:26 pm
by fledonfoot
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:12 pm A bit :disappoint: that I didn't get out and ride this weekend. 4 days with the in-laws had me all :eeyore:

Will have to see about this coming weekend.
I rode yesterday. It was cold. Wifey's Asthma kicked in hard. As did mine, apparently.

Lungs hurt from cold air... miserable.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:32 pm
by Apex
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:26 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:12 pm A bit :disappoint: that I didn't get out and ride this weekend. 4 days with the in-laws had me all :eeyore:

Will have to see about this coming weekend.
I rode yesterday. It was cold. Wifey's Asthma kicked in hard. As did mine, apparently.

Lungs hurt from cold air... miserable.
I can imagine. I kinda want to ride Mercer at least one last time this season to see if I can get up that damn hill.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:20 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:06 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:12 pm A bit :disappoint: that I didn't get out and ride this weekend. 4 days with the in-laws had me all :eeyore:

Will have to see about this coming weekend.
Yeah, I was all :eeyore: about riding this weekend since the initial forecast was for near 40 degree temps, so I planned other things.

Ended up being in the low 50s... could've totally ridden. :|
I finally made the decision to ride at like 1:30 on Sunday. So got out at 2-ish, was too dark for the woods around 3:45. Not a long ride at all, especially considering the 12 miles round trip to get to the trails, but it was a good call overall.

Tights
Long sleeve base layer
Short sleeve jersey
Vest
Neck scruff
Long finger gloves
Wool socks

Seemed to do the trick for 45 degrees, and could have handled a bit lower. I'm gonna need some warmer gloves though. Saw Handup has some winter gloves now... might pick up a pair.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:25 pm
by Johnny_P
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:32 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:26 pm

I rode yesterday. It was cold. Wifey's Asthma kicked in hard. As did mine, apparently.

Lungs hurt from cold air... miserable.
I can imagine. I kinda want to ride Mercer at least one last time this season to see if I can get up that damn hill.
:wat: is the :dill: on the hill?

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:29 pm
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:25 pm
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:32 pm

I can imagine. I kinda want to ride Mercer at least one last time this season to see if I can get up that damn hill.
:wat: is the :dill: on the hill?
Just a decently steep hill right at the reservoir edge. I've nearly made it to the top, like a bike-length short, but haven't been able to climb it yet.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:34 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:29 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:25 pm

:wat: is the :dill: on the hill?
It requires being in the right gear and having the right legs.

Gotta downshift, spin up the diesel engine to about 3k RPM and never give up.
Is it this one?

https://www.strava.com/segments/7446016

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:37 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:35 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:34 pm

Is it this one?

https://www.strava.com/segments/7446016
No, it's this one: https://www.strava.com/segments/7446016
Ah yes I see. Looks very hard.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:59 pm
by Apex
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:37 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:35 pm

No, it's this one: https://www.strava.com/segments/7446016
Ah yes I see. Looks very hard.
:hue:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:49 pm
by fledonfoot
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:29 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:25 pm

:wat: is the :dill: on the hill?
It requires being in the right gear and having the right legs.

Gotta downshift, spin up the diesel engine to about 3k RPM and never give up.
Or pull a Gberg... pedal like crazy, and the second it ramps to go up hill, wash the front wheel out, faceplant and tackle the ground full on with the shoulder.

Re: Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:55 pm
by Gberg2119
fledonfoot wrote:
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:29 pm It requires being in the right gear and having the right legs.

Gotta downshift, spin up the diesel engine to about 3k RPM and never give up.
Or pull a Gberg... pedal like crazy, and the second it ramps to go up hill, wash the front wheel out, faceplant and tackle the ground full on with the shoulder.
:dat:

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Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:49 pm
by Johnny_P
fledonfoot wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:49 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:29 pm

It requires being in the right gear and having the right legs.

Gotta downshift, spin up the diesel engine to about 3k RPM and never give up.
Or pull a Gberg... pedal like crazy, and the second it ramps to go up hill, wash the front wheel out, faceplant and tackle the ground full on with the shoulder.
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