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Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:53 pm I have definitely ridden some very expensive mountain bike demos that felt like complete crap (IMO of course) despite reviewing well or having a big following.

Some bikes right now can be re sold for nearly MSRP though so the risk is lower than it usually would be.
Same. That day I rode the Trance I also rode a Scott (Genius? I think?) that was a :balls: out $8,000 bike. I used to watch GMBN a bunch and one of the presenters on there had basically this exact model as his personal bike, so I had really high expectations. It was a 27.5 plus (2.8") bike, 150mm of travel IIRC, and I hated it. The 2.8" tires were unbelievably heavy and slow-rolling, the suspension was bottomless in the worst way, and it was exactly zero fun on those trails. After riding the v1 Ripmo I have a newfound respect for the Trance, actually. Some aspects of the geometry needed an update in the worst way but that bike was probably still more fun than the Ripmo IMO. The factory Fox 36 on that Ripmo was :muah: doe.
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Ripley AF head angle might be a bit too slack for me. Ripley carbon has a steeper head tube which would probably feel better on the pedaly tight technical rides I do.

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I remember jumping on a Trek Remedy back in 2009-ish and having my mind totally blown on a rocky downhill up in State College.

Demo rides are awesome.
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coogles wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:02 pm
Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:53 pm I have definitely ridden some very expensive mountain bike demos that felt like complete crap (IMO of course) despite reviewing well or having a big following.

Some bikes right now can be re sold for nearly MSRP though so the risk is lower than it usually would be.
Same. That day I rode the Trance I also rode a Scott (Genius? I think?) that was a :balls: out $8,000 bike. I used to watch GMBN a bunch and one of the presenters on there had basically this exact model as his personal bike, so I had really high expectations. It was a 27.5 plus (2.8") bike, 150mm of travel IIRC, and I hated it. The 2.8" tires were unbelievably heavy and slow-rolling, the suspension was bottomless in the worst way, and it was exactly zero fun on those trails. After riding the v1 Ripmo I have a newfound respect for the Trance, actually. Some aspects of the geometry needed an update in the worst way but that bike was probably still more fun than the Ripmo IMO. The factory Fox 36 on that Ripmo was :muah: doe.
Factory Fox36's are incredible.

Yeah. The bike I rented in Sedona was a Hightower XO1 and that felt like a big pile of uncoordinated poo.
Specialized Stumpjumper (prior gen) 29er felt so heavy and squishy it was actually difficult for me to ride the wiss because I couldn't huck it over logs.
Loved the Santa Claus 5010. That bike was ridiculous in the best ways but pedaled poorly (think that's changed since 2012 though).
Loved the Pivot Mach 5.5 which is a 27.5 bike with fat 2.6" tires and too much travel. It was exactly what I want except for the ridiculous price.
Hated the Pivot Mach 6 which is almost identical to the 5.5 with a bit more travel.
Loved the Giant Anthem which was a short travel 27.5er.

So. I dunno. Whatever. I'm like 50/50. I clearly don't personally agree with a lot of the west coast reviewers, probably because my terrain is so vastly different and tighter compared to what they ride.
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Looks like the Trek Top Fuel has become what the Fuel EX used to be. 130 fork, 120 rear. Knock block steering limiter is now "optional" so they finally found a way, like every other bike brand, to have a normal front end. And did away with press fit bottom brackets.

Sounds great. Killer colors.

Price is bonkers at almost $5,900 for the lowest end carbon build.

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2022-trek-top-fuel/
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Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:20 am Looks like the Trek Top Fuel has become what the Fuel EX used to be. 130 fork, 120 rear. Knock block steering limiter is now "optional" so they finally found a way, like every other bike brand, to have a normal front end. And did away with press fit bottom brackets.

Sounds great. Killer colors.

Price is bonkers at almost $5,900 for the lowest end carbon build.

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2022-trek-top-fuel/
Hell yea. 76* seat tube and 66* head tube angles are right there in the sweet spot for a trail bike. This is what the Ripley was 2+ years ago, but at least they finally have something comparable.
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coogles wrote: โ†‘Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:32 am
Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:20 am Looks like the Trek Top Fuel has become what the Fuel EX used to be. 130 fork, 120 rear. Knock block steering limiter is now "optional" so they finally found a way, like every other bike brand, to have a normal front end. And did away with press fit bottom brackets.

Sounds great. Killer colors.

Price is bonkers at almost $5,900 for the lowest end carbon build.

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2022-trek-top-fuel/
Hell yea. 76* seat tube and 66* head tube angles are right there in the sweet spot for a trail bike. This is what the Ripley was 2+ years ago, but at least they finally have something comparable.
Yeah, albeit with a much less complicated single pivot suspension design. Which might not matter anymore since air shocks have become a lot more progressive in the last 5-10 years.
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Reading more about the new SID forks, they sound awesome. Designed to sit higher in their travel, 120ish mm. 35mm stanchions. Lightweight.
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Man, I'm still nuked from UnPAved on Sunday.

125+ miles, 11k feet of climbing, and :moist: AF.

Haven't even looked my bike in the face yet. Finished 21st out of 200+ in the 125 miler. Thankfully, no mechanical issues, flats, or blood spilled.

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Sweet. I should do it next year.
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Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:29 pm Sweet. I should do it next year.
You should.

Also, since you're in the city, you should check out the Paper Trail Bike Cafe (bike shop) and Musette (cafe).

Both are run by cycling friends of mine - PTBC just did a Wednesday night gravel ride that went up Port Royal.
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Zillon wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:52 am
Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:29 pm Sweet. I should do it next year.
You should.

Also, since you're in the city, you should check out the Paper Trail Bike Cafe (bike shop) and Musette (cafe).

Both are run by cycling friends of mine - PTBC just did a Wednesday night gravel ride that went up Port Royal.
Yeah I ran into them yesterday. Big group. Lots of people walking their bikes on the trail.

Port Royal is extra shitty rn, lots of craters in the cobble section. Was fun to ride it.
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So unPAved DFD :meat: up?

I'm in... BRB, buying a gravel bike.
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See you guys at the finish line. Iโ€™d be taking my sweet ass time.
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Man. I have felt like total :poop: on the bike lately. I'm doing this workout program that's essentially designed around restoring proper movement patterns for athletic potential and longevity. The first 12 weeks were all bodyweight, so I could do the program and ride 3x per week without any trouble. This second 12 week phase is loaded, and as my mobility has improved I've been able to add more and more weight and express each movement more fully, but that's been wiping out my legs and my riding has definitely suffered. Even an endurance ride with nothing but zones 2 & 3 leaves me feeling totally beat. I think I actually gave myself a super mild case of Rhabdo last week after a 45 minute ride. And riding outside I feel like I'm constantly going up an incline; I go lactic basically instantly. Balancing the two goals is tough, y'all. 6 leg days per week - 3 with weights and 3 cycling - is not sustainable. :disappoint:
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coogles wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:56 pm Man. I have felt like total :poop: on the bike lately. I'm doing this workout program that's essentially designed around restoring proper movement patterns for athletic potential and longevity. The first 12 weeks were all bodyweight, so I could do the program and ride 3x per week without any trouble. This second 12 week phase is loaded, and as my mobility has improved I've been able to add more and more weight and express each movement more fully, but that's been wiping out my legs and my riding has definitely suffered. Even an endurance ride with nothing but zones 2 & 3 leaves me feeling totally beat. I think I actually gave myself a super mild case of Rhabdo last week after a 45 minute ride. And riding outside I feel like I'm constantly going up an incline; I go lactic basically instantly. Balancing the two goals is tough, y'all. 6 leg days per week - 3 with weights and 3 cycling - is not sustainable. :disappoint:
It is really a challenge to try to engage in multiple forms of fitness at a high level.

I essentially cut out all lifting of legs at this point, a typical week for me is two lifts (one upper body heavy, one upper body hypertrophy, occasionally a third at home that's mostly light dumbbells/body weight stuff), one run, and five days on the bike. Your body does get used to more volume over time and it gets a lot better.
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D Griff wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:42 pm It is really a challenge to try to engage in multiple forms of fitness at a high level.

I essentially cut out all lifting of legs at this point, a typical week for me is two lifts (one upper body heavy, one upper body hypertrophy, occasionally a third at home that's mostly light dumbbells/body weight stuff), one run, and five days on the bike. Your body does get used to more volume over time and it gets a lot better.
It's really tough. Hockey was always my #1 priority, but now that I'm retired from goaltending (my hips are rather fucked), I'm having a hard time with what to focus on next.
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For me it was lifting for years... I always fought being injury prone, unathletic, and just not that strong... powerlifted for 10 years or more and could never even squat 300 pounds. I always ran at least a bit and enjoyed that but focused on gainz. Come to find out, I got better at cycling in one year than I will ever be at lifting, so it has been a bit more gratifying. I still do enjy lifting and keeping some decent level of physique, but it has been nice to be :aintcare: about progress in the strength department. I also love doing anything that gets me outside more now that I'm an office cog.
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D Griff wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:52 pm For me it was lifting for years... I always fought being injury prone, unathletic, and just not that strong... powerlifted for 10 years or more and could never even squat 300 pounds. I always ran at least a bit and enjoyed that but focused on gainz. Come to find out, I got better at cycling in one year than I will ever be at lifting, so it has been a bit more gratifying. I still do enjy lifting and keeping some decent level of physique, but it has been nice to be :aintcare: about progress in the strength department. I also love doing anything that gets me outside more now that I'm an office cog.
I know that uphill battle. I said hockey was always my #1 priority but I guess that's not 100% true. I quit my college hockey team after the end of my sophomore season for a number of reasons, and after that I pretty much just focused on getting jacked. I set every lifetime PR in the "big 3" within the next 18 months after that. I then herniated my L5S1 disc and spent the next several years just trying to get back to those numbers, but every time I got close I'd tweak my back again and have to start all over.
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I didn't put the pads back on until my later 20s, but from probably ~2013 until the pandemic hit all I've really given a shit about from a training perspective was hockey. But two cam impingements and torn labrums later and I've had to hang it up until I have surgery. My hips feel fine doing anything except playing in goal, though, and the rehab takes a long time, so eh. Not sure I'm going to :doit: unless they get worse.
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Cycling would be a logical next thing to pursue, but :iono: , compared to hockey I don't have anywhere near the same kind of passion for it yet.

Wouldn't let me put all of :dat: in one post. :notsure:
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Johnny_P wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:28 pm See you guys at the finish line. Iโ€™d be taking my sweet ass time.
11 hours was taking my sweet ass time. :lol:

You might like the 2-day overnight option.
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coogles wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:47 pm
D Griff wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:42 pm It is really a challenge to try to engage in multiple forms of fitness at a high level.

I essentially cut out all lifting of legs at this point, a typical week for me is two lifts (one upper body heavy, one upper body hypertrophy, occasionally a third at home that's mostly light dumbbells/body weight stuff), one run, and five days on the bike. Your body does get used to more volume over time and it gets a lot better.
It's really tough. Hockey was always my #1 priority, but now that I'm retired from goaltending (my hips are rather fucked), I'm having a hard time with what to focus on next.
Turn into a sprinter on the bike. Leg day all day son.
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Just pulled the crank and wheels apart on the Sacklist.

Bottom bracket is cooked. Non drive bearing is almost seized, drive bearing actually has play in it.

Rear freehub is shot. Bent springs, pitted pawls, bearings are super gritty. Thankfully I've got a new one ready to go on.

Front bearings are also nearly seized.

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Zillon wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:05 pm Just pulled the crank and wheels apart on the Sacklist.

Bottom bracket is cooked. Non drive bearing is almost seized, drive bearing actually has play in it.

Rear freehub is shot. Bent springs, pitted pawls, bearings are super gritty. Thankfully I've got a new one ready to go on.

Front bearings are also nearly seized.

RIP.
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Zillon wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:03 pm
coogles wrote: โ†‘Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:47 pm

It's really tough. Hockey was always my #1 priority, but now that I'm retired from goaltending (my hips are rather fucked), I'm having a hard time with what to focus on next.
Turn into a sprinter on the bike. Leg day all day son.
May or may not have hit 933 watts a couple weeks ago.
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